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Yes it is Chrissie. His daughter Bessie, born 1920, told her daughter she thought her father had left her mother for another woman. I'm sending away for a few certificates trying to find her mother's death. Fred was born in the Dec quarter of 1897 in Burley in Wharfedale. Sending for that too as sometimes death index information seems to have their actual birth. I might be able to eliminate and thus save some money. I'll look up that shipping record too. Couldn't find anything to suggest he also went to America.

Since Fred is Jonathan's son it sort of makes sense to keep the family in this thread !


Diane is this your Fred ?


1901

Name: Jonathan Coward
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Coward
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bingley
Ecclesiastical parish: Bingley All Saints
Town: Crossflatts
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Keighley

Jonathan Coward 26
Eliza Coward 27
Fred Coward 3 ??? born Burley in Wharfedale
Jesse Coward 7 Months
Willie Thome 7


in 1891 Jonathan was a servant, and I can't find him anywhere in 1881

looking to see whether he had a sister Alice ...


Marriages Jun 1895
Coward Jonathan Wharfedale 9a 257
Thorne Eliza Wharfedale 9a 257

Births Dec 1897
Coward Fred Wharfedale 9a 143


I don't see a passenger record for him to the USA

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action?

only one Coward unstated first name and sex, 1959


1911 census for ref

COWARD JONATHAN M 1874 37 Tadcaster Yorkshire West Riding
COWARD ELIZA F 1874 37
COWARD JESSIE M 1900 11
COWARD TOMAS M 1902 9
COWARD EDDIE M 1904 7
COWARD JONATHAN M 1906 5
COWARD BEETRESS ROSE MARY F 1910 1

not living with them

COWARD FRED M 1896 15


a possible passenger record

COWARD Fred 1901 M 1949 London Australia Sydney

You could try a lookup at:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ssdi/search_ssdi.asp&clear_form=true

However, I don't know when social security was introduced for everyone - I think the older entries there are for folk getting other govt pensions.

You could try asking for a 1930 census lookup to see where he's living. The state he died in will have his d.cert, but it might not be old enough to be a public record.

To find out abt d.certs for any particular state, google cyndislist then look up the state, in particular the vital records/statistics section.

Hi Diane, it quite often happens that long time members have never ventured onto the boards before, but you will find them very helpful on here.


It's now 18 months since this thread was first posted so it would be better if you started your own thread, so take a look at the Help Clinic - above left- for advice on how to do this.

As you probably know, one of the most helpful things you can do is put the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above to see if anyone else on this site has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner. Regards. Cx

Long time member of Genes but never used a Board before. My niece is descended from Jonathan - her great great grandfather. Just started this line and haven't had time to get what I've found onto the site as yet. Her great grandfather was Fred Coward who married Dorothy Lily Streader. Does anyone know anything about Fred? Seems he didn't stay married to Dorothy for long - was gone definitely by 1926. Any chance he also went to America? Have looked up Shipping on Find My Past but can't be sure. Also possibility he stayed in Yorkshire.

Hi Ann,
Glad some of the info has been of help !!!!! I must say the help and info you get from the people on GR is amazing.
I am looking into the Coward family for my Partners Family - on his Mothers side.
It looks like Jonathan went to America with a Mrs Alice Sagar, - now the info i have found out looks like Alice was a Coward before she married a Joseph Sagar in 1900 in Doncaster - not sure if you knew or wanted that info.!!!!
Regards
Sally

Can't believe this. I have been searching for my GGrandfather's death in UK despite family legend that he left for USA.

I am a relative newcomer to GsR and this is the first time I have explored this option.
Hope it proves fruitful

BB

Thanks Elizabeth - i have been out this evening so just got your message, as he left his wife to go to America, why we don't know, he may well be known by the name John. !!!!!!!!
Sleep Well
Sally

Sally,
Is this him?

There are no Jonathan Coward's but 50 John Coward's only one born 1875:-

John COWARD-Birth Date 1875 15 Nov
Death Date 1965 Sept State IN

(which I assume is Indianna?)!!

Sally, thank you for coming back to us so promptly! Always a pleasure to help those who acknowledge us!!

Well thanks for looking both !!!!! Have a nice evening !!!! Sally x

I agree with Lindylu, I have searched and cannot see it either.

LL

I've had a look but its such hard work looking for US deaths, and I cant find anything.

Thats the problem !!!!!!!!!!!! No i don't sorry.

Sally,

Do you know what State he was living in when he died?

LL

Many thanks again LL. Keep looking for me !!!! lol lol

For reference :

LL


Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Jonathan Coward
Name: Jonathan Coward
Arrival Date: 4 Jul 1923
Age: 48 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Haverford
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Mrs. Alice Sager
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Bradford, England
Microfilm Roll Number:

Hi, i am trying to find the death of Jonathan Coward - in America.
He was born abt 1875 in Bradford England, left for America from Liverpool 1923 arrived in Philadelphia on the Haverford ship.
Many thanks Sally