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WHY WILTSHIRE AND HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE DOEL?

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Oct 2011 15:53

Hello Jill - rather than tag on this old posting why not start a posting of your own giving all the info you have - full names and relevant dates - you are sure to get plenty of help

Ann :-)

Jill

Jill Report 4 Oct 2011 14:03

My ancestors are the Doels from Trowbridge who then went on to Llansamlet in Wales. I have still got to research alot into the Doel family & I need to visit Wiltshire
Jill

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 May 2011 22:34

I am aware this is an old posting and the poster is highly unlikely to be looking for it now, but for the record


Last name: Doel
This interesting and unusual surname is a German variant of Dole, which is of French origin, and is derived from a nickname for a troubled or anxious person, from the Old French "dole", from "dolere", to hurt, "dolet", it is a matter of regret; literally this means it hurts. This is an example of that sizeable group of early European surnames that were gradually created from the habitual use of nicknames. The nicknames were given in the first instance with reference to a variety of characteristics such as physical attributes or peculiarities, mental and moral characteristics, supposed resemblance to an animal or bird's appearance or disposition, habits of dress and occupation. The modern surname can be found as Dole, Dolle, Doel(le) and Doale. One James Doel married Anne Huckwell on January 4th 1668 at St. Katherine-by-the-Tower, London. The christening was recorded in Germany of Maria Catharina, daughter of Joannis Doel and Gertrudis Dreisers, on July 1st 1674 at Mayen, Katholisch, PR, Rheinland. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of William de la Dole, which was dated 1273, in the "Hundred Rolls of Cambridgeshire", during the reign of King Edward 1, known as "The Hammer of the Scots", 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 15 May 2011 21:42

We pronounce it 'doe- elle' BTW ;-)

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 15 May 2011 21:41

Hi Gai

I guess you've had a reply? If not it is rumoured that the Doel's were non-conformists who came from the continent & settled in Wiltshire. Before my marriage I was a Doel & my line goes back to Trowbridge.

Regards Suzanne

Gai

Gai Report 25 Sep 2008 23:42

Thanks for all your help. I have quite a bit of information about the family - he married Sarah Newman who after she married called herself Ellen Doel most of the time (!) I was interested in the name - where it came from etc - have I posted on the wrong board? (I'm a newbie to this site!)

Gai

Gai

Gai Report 25 Sep 2008 23:05

Thanks. I have Jessie's birth cert. Her father was born in Trowbridge - the rest of his family from Westbury in Wilts. He came to London around 1886. There are a large number of Doels late 1800's and back in Westbury and surrounds - it is a nightmare trying to unravel them! i just wondered why?

Gai

Gai Report 25 Sep 2008 22:43

My grandmother was Jessie Doel b 1905 in Mile End. Her father is Arthur Doel b 1868 - they had a large number of children, Jessie being the youngest. Despite my dad not know any of her family history I have unravelled quite a bit. I have two questions please if anyone knows the answer!

Does anyone know why there are so many Doel's in Wiltshire?

Also, can anyone tell me how the name is properly pronounced? Dad always said "dawl" rather than "doll".

Gai