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1851 census

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ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Oct 2008 13:49

No it isn't cheap but without them sometimes the best guess is wrong, lol.

There are too many Elizabeth Richards to check in 1841 without a father's name and age as a guide.

Maybe Elizabeth married again but doesn't explain why we can't find him in 1851 if his father had died that qtr.

Christine

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Oct 2008 13:37

Oooh Christine that look really promising. I know that my Thomas' parents were Thomas & Elizabeth (nee Richards) - one of those you have found. But I hadnt found the other information that you have provided which looks good - another cert or 2 to be ordered me thinks!!
This is not a cheap hobby is it! LOL but very very addictive!

Thanks again
Ness xx

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Oct 2008 13:31

The baptism found shows his parents as Thomas and Elizabeth but the birthcert would give you his mother's maiden name.

There is this death registered in Solihull, possibly his father.

Deaths Mar 1851 (>99%)

THORNE Thomas Solihull 16 420


This could also be the marriage of his parents, birth cert would confirm MMN.

Marriages Mar 1844 (>99%)


ASHFORTH Robert Birmingham 16 275
BANKS Mary Ann Birmingham 16 275
BIDDULPH Jane Hannah Birmingham 16 275
BUNN John Birmingham 16 275
MARSH John Birmingham 16 275
<<<RICHARDS Elizabeth Birmingham 16 275
<<<THORNE Thomas Birmingham 16 275
<<<WARD Elizabeth Birmingham 16 275


This may be his father Thomas in 1841

1841 England Census
about Thomas Thorne
Name: Thomas Thorne
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Solihull
Hundred: Hemlingford (Solihull Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Solihull
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Thorne 50
Sarah Thorne 50
John Thorne 20
Thomas Thorne 15
Charles Thorne 15
Henry Thorne 12
Jane Thorne 6
Job Daffern 3


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1129; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Solihull; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 14; Page: 21; Line: 7;


This is just my best guess without the certs.

Christine



Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Oct 2008 12:37

Really sorry everybody - I was desperate to make sure I had the information required!!!! How could I possibly have not included 1844!!!

Thanks for perserverance to: Diddydoris, Janice, Linda, Christine, Carly, Mel - my Thomas is the one born in 1844 & married to Sarah Smith.

Any ideas on where I might get more information from on the early years? I'm a real novice!!!

Your help has been greatly appreciated.

Ness xx

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Oct 2008 09:05

THOMAS THORN Pedigree
Male Family

-------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH DYER Family
Marriage: 23 APR 1865 Barton-On-The-Heath, Warwick, England

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Oct 2008 09:03

THOMAS THORN Pedigree
Male
-------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 JUN 1844 Solihull, Warwick, England
-------------------------------------------------------------
Parents:
Father: THOMAS THORN Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

Diddydoris

Diddydoris Report 29 Oct 2008 09:03

There's this one?

1851 England Census about Thomas Thorn
Name: Thomas Thorn
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Barton On The Heath, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Barton On The Heath
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Chipping Norton
Sub registration district: Charlbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Authur Thorn 2
Hannah Thorn 49
Hannah Thorn 11
John Thorn 24
Oliver Thorn 5
Sarah Thorn 22
Thomas Thorn 50
Thomas Thorn 9

Carley

Carley Report 29 Oct 2008 08:55

there is a marriage for a thomas thorn to a sarah dyer 23 APR 1865 Barton-On-The-Heath, Warwick, England

Linda

Linda Report 29 Oct 2008 08:53

Poss marriage://??

Marriages Dec 1868
Smith Sarah Aston 6d 399
Thorne Thomas Aston 6d 399

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Oct 2008 08:52

Could be that his father died and mother remarried so he is under a different name in 1851/61.

Christine

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Oct 2008 08:50

have you got a marriage cert to confirm his fathers name?It may be mistranscribed in census as haven't found one with that name yet

Linda

Linda Report 29 Oct 2008 08:50

Possible death:/??

Name: Thomas Thorne
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 62
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 252

Carley

Carley Report 29 Oct 2008 08:48

i have found him in 1871 and 1881 census with birth year around 1844 there is one in 1851 but birth year is 1823

1871
Name: Thomas Thome
[Thomas Thorne]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
Charles T Thome 6 months
Mary A Thome 2
Sarah Thome 23
Thomas Thome 27

1881

Name: Thomas Thorne
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 4 House 2 Court Devon St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Mary Ann Thorne 12
Sarah Thorne 33
Thomas Thorne 37

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Oct 2008 08:47

Not having any luck, can't find him in 1861 either.

Christine

Linda

Linda Report 29 Oct 2008 08:45

Earliest I can see him is 1871;


1871 England Census
about Thomas Thome
Name: Thomas Thome
[Thomas Thorne]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
Charles T Thome 6 months
Mary A Thome 2
Sarah Thome 23
Thomas Thome 27

1881 England Census
about Thomas Thorne
Name: Thomas Thorne
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 4 House 2 Court Devon St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Mary Ann Thorne 12
Sarah Thorne 33
Thomas Thorne 37



jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Oct 2008 08:45

1871 is this him?
Name: Thomas Thome
[Thomas Thorne]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire

Household Members: Name Age
Charles T Thome 6 months
Mary A Thome 2
Sarah Thome 23
Thomas Thome 27

Diddydoris

Diddydoris Report 29 Oct 2008 08:38

Births Sep 1844
Thorne Thomas Solihull 16 439

Diddydoris

Diddydoris Report 29 Oct 2008 08:36

What year was he born?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 29 Oct 2008 08:36

Which year was the birth registered and what do you expect the parents names to be?

Christine

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 29 Oct 2008 08:25

Could somebody please look on the 1851 census for Thomas Thorne, birth registered Sept qtr Solihull, vol 16, pg 439. I dont have access to this and am trying to find where the family are at this time.

Many thanks to anybody that can help
Vanessa