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Hi Christine,
I found this to. I did google Handsworth but could not find any mention of Hull. Seems to be close to Sheffield. I am in Australia and geography is not my strongest skill - all of this is on the other side of the world.
Julia

Name: Mary Eaton
Age: 10 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emeld
Gender: Female
Where born: Handsworth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Handsworth
Town: Birley Vale and Intake
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
Emeld Eaton 25
John Eaton 26
Mary Eaton 10 months

1871 - John is a coal miner
don't know how far this is from Hull

Christine

Marriage certificate: 24 Feb 1890 St Matthews Church, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
John De Munnik 21 Bachelor, Sailer, 122 Warwick Street, Father: John Christopher De Munik Laborer
Mary Ellen Eaton 20 Spinster 2 Woolfe Street, Father: John Eaton Deceased
Witnesses: James Henry Dixon and Mary? Ellen Ballantina
According to the 1901 census Mary Ellen was born Hull, Yorkshire - cannot find a birth.
Cannot confirm Eaton family on 1871 or 1881 census so do not know when they moved to Liverpool. Hoping if I found death certificate it may have her sister or Mother as informant - know it is a long shot but hoping. Have found all other Demunnik certificates but struggling with this one. Thanks for all your efforts.

If you have the marriage cert - can you post ALL the details from it please - names, ages, occupation, addresses, witnesses etc.

Dea x

Hi Dea,
I know Mary Ellen's Father is John from her marriage certificate. The only record of Hull is from the 1901 census (am still searching 1891 for confirmation). I cannot find John and Mary Ellen Eaton on 1881 census either - got info from IGI. Am dashing off to work (already late) will post IGI info later this afternoon.
Thanks
Julia

Hi Julia,

I am really sorry if I can't follow this and it is just me BUT:

I do not understand how you know that Mary Ellen's father was John.

I do not see 3 Mary's on 1881 born in Yorkshire c 1870 with John as a father born in Hull

Can you post details of the 3 possible births you are considering and census details from 1881 please?

You also say her age on 1901 at 30 matches up with her birth certificate, yet you are trying to narrow down her birth from three possibles???

Dea x

Hi All,
Mary Ellen Eaton married John Demunnik in Liverpool in 1890. Their son John born May 1894 sadly died in Dec 1894.
Mary Ellen was born in 1870 in Hull, her Father was also John. With the names John and Mary Ellen Eaton I have 3 possible matches from the 1881 census. I cannot find John and Mary Ellen Demunnik on the 1891 census just the 1901 which shows Mary Ellen's age as 30 which matches with her birth certificate. I was hoping to find her death certificate to try and confirm her age to narrow down the 3 birh possibilites. Although I have had a tough time matching census records with the spelling and transcribing of Demunnik I have been able to find all BMD certificates but I cannot find Mary Ellen's death. John married in 1911 to Ethel Mary Milican.
Thanks
Julia in Oz

What happened to John Demunnik born c 1894 to John + Mary Ellen in Liverpool?

Dea x

Sorry Christine - perhaps it is me but Mary Ellen married John Demunnik - therefore her father is unlikely to be a Demunnik? and if you mean on the 1901 - he is her father-in-law !

Am I confused here?

If I have the correct marriage her father's name would probably be Eaton - I am wondering what she knows about Mary Ellen's father so we can trace back to possible birth which she says she hasn't got and is looking for.

Thank you for the marriage ref though in 1911.

Dea x

it's on the actual pages Dea,

John DeMunnik - Birkenhead 8a 1103
Q3 1911

Christine

This is very strange !!!

I can see no death for Mary Ellen.

Nor can I see a second marriage for John in 1911 - can you give details please?

How do you know Mary Ellen's father was John and what details do you have on him please?

Dea x

Do you have the marriage details?

Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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***DE MUNNIE John Toxteth Park 8b 335
***Eaton Mary Ellen Toxteth Park 8b 335
LEE John Toxteth Park 8b 335
Powell Mary Ann Toxteth Park 8b 335

Dea x

If it's Mary Ellen's birth you are after - do you have her maiden name?

Was it Eaton?

Dea x

have you seen this 1901 record
1901

: John Demunnik
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:51 Miles street

Occupation:Fireman (ships)

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 73
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Demunnik 39
Henry Demunnik 20
John Demunnik 59
John Demunnik 32
Mary Demunnik 30 b Hull Yorks
Christopher Paterson 56
Elizabeth Paterson 55

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3436; Folio: 52; Page: 6

As you know her dads name you can use this a checking point when you order a cert .if it doesn,t match then you get a £4 refund

Hi Shirley,
My trouble is I have 3 families that fit the information I have. Mary Ellen's Father was John, born Hull, Yorkshire. Mary Ellen was born 1869/1870, was hoping I may be able to narrow done and not have to buy all 3 certificates to obtain the correct one.
Julia

the birth record of the little girl will give Marys maiden name .the marriage cert too will give her age and her fathers name

Hi Shirley,
John was Mary Ellen's Father in law. I have all the other Demunnik records, it's just Mary Ellen's death record I am chasing - hope to work backwards to seek her birth records.
Thanks
Julia

other possible family members
Deaths Dec 1906

De Munnik John C 65 Toxteth Park 8b 120

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Deaths Jun 1911
De Munnik Elizabeth A 68 Toxteth P. 8b 120

Hi Christine,
The first one is her daughter, born and died in 1902. The seond is Mary's brother in law.
Have certificates for both of these, it is the death of Mary Ellen that is proving elusive.
Thanks
Julia

Name: Henry Demunnik
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 30
District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 95 (click to see others on page)

this one may be related to yours too

Christine