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Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 21:25

Probable marriage for daughter Agnes:-
Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
Bancroft Joseph Atcham 6a 1245
GEORGE Sarah Margaret Atcham 6a 1245
Perks Agnes Maria Atcham 6a 1245
Wallator William Atcham 6a 1245


Granddaughter Lottie Griffiths:-
Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
Griffiths Lottie Atcham 6a 656


Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 21:08

The big question now is,
Who was the father of John Frederick Hodson?

We know who his Grandparents were and we know that he was the son of one of the daughters. We can find out which one by buying his birth certificate. Hopefully it will also give his fathers name as I can only find one marriage between a female Perks and a male Hodson, but dates and name doesn't entirely match.

So, next thing to do is buy the certificate and see what it says!!!!!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:52

Other births, same parent's names, same place:-

RICHARD TAYLOR - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 MAY 1824 Ruyton Of The Eleven Towns, Shropshire, England

RICHARD TAYLOR - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JAN 1829 Ruyton Of The Eleven Towns, Shropshire, England

JOSEPH TAYLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 FEB 1817 Ruyton Of The Eleven Towns, Shropshire, England

so possible siblings of Jane.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:42

Could only find one Jane Bevan born between 1821-1825
JANE BEVAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 MAR 1823 Wroxeter, Shropshire, England

so not correct birth place for wife of Joseph....but I did find this:-

JANE TAYLOR - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 JAN 1821 Ruyton Of The Eleven Towns, Shropshire, England
Father: THOMAS TAYLOR
Mother: SARAH

so it looks as though Joseph married Jane Taylor.
What do you think Cass?

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:29

Could very well be the birth for Joseph too:-

JOSEPH PARKS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 APR 1823

Gender: Male Christening: 08 MAY 1823 Saint Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Father: RICHARD PARKS
Mother: JANE

Can't find a marriage for Richard and Jane or any more children?

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:25

Could very well be Joseph in 1841:-

Name: Joseph Perks
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Atcham
Hundred: South Bradford (Wellington Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ag. Labourer

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Atcham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Richards 25
Hariot Hughes 20
Thomas Miatt 44
Richard Davies 30
Joseph Perks 20
William Bickley 20
Thomas Purslow 12

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:18

Marriage for Joseph and Jane:-

Marriages Sep 1845 (>99%)
Astin Edward Shrewsbury 18 195
Bevan Eliza Shrewsbury 18 195
<<Bevan Jane Shrewsbury 18 195
COOPER William Shrewsbury 18 195
HERRINGTON Martha Shrewsbury 18 195
JUDSON William Shrewsbury 18 195
<<Perks Joseph Shrewsbury 18 195
<<Taylor Jane Shrewsbury 18 195

two possible:- Jane Bevan or Jane Taylor

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:15

1851:-
Name: Jane Perks
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Ruyton, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Meole Brace
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Registration district: Shrewsbury
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Albrech Perks 2
Emma Perks 5
Jane Perks 28
Joseph Perks 28 (Brickmaker)

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:13

1861:-
Name: Jane Perks
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Ruyton of The Eleven Towns, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Meole Brace
Ecclesiastical parish: Meole Brace
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Shrewsbury
Sub registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72 F
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Perks 12 born: Meole Brace
Elizabeth Perks 2 born: Meole Brace
Jane Perks 37
Jane Perks 6 born: Meole Brace
Joseph Perks 39 born: Meole Brace
(Railway Labourer)
Mary Perks 10 born: Meole Brace
Sarah Taylor 70 born: Meole Brace (Visitor)

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 20:08

1871:-

Name: Jane Perks
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ruyton Towns, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Meole Brace
Ecclesiastical parish: Meole Brace
Town: Meole Brace
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Perks 6 born: Meole Brace, Shropshire
Alfred Perks 21 born: Meole Brace, Shropshire
Elizabeth Perks 12 born: Meole Brace, Shropshire
Jane Perks 46

Susan

Susan Report 26 Nov 2008 17:00

sorted

Cassidy

Cassidy Report 26 Nov 2008 16:51

Hi Catherine,Susan also PM'd me...said she's new to this and I've asked her to go back to this,her thread which I believe you have the correct information for...there does'nt seem to be any other match...nice one Cath!,Cass

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 16:03

WW1 Service Records:-
Name: John Frederick Hodson
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1878
Residence : 5 Derfald St, Shrewsbury
Trade: Platelayer
Regiment Name: RE (Transportation Bran??)
Regiment Number: 94252
Document Year: 1915
Number of Images: 8
Corps: Royal Engineers
17 April 1915

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:54

1891:-
Name: Frederick John Hodson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Meole Brace, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Meole Brace
Ecclesiastical parish: Meole Brace
Town: Meole Brace
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation:

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Parks 65 - Widow, Laundress
Frederick John Hodson 12
Lottie Griffiths 5 - Relation: Granddaughter
Thomas Ford 22 - Lodger

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:51

This could well be him in 1881:-

Name: Frederick John Hodson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Gender: Male
Where born: Meole Brace, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Meole Brace
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: Rose Cottages 7

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick John Hodson 3 - Daughter's Child
Agnes Perks 17 - Daughter
born: Meole Brace, Shropshire
Jane Perks 55 Laundress
born: Ruyton 11 Towns, Shropshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:46

Going on the fact that above is correct:-

Birth for John Frederick:-

Name: John Frederick Hodson
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Atcham
County: Montgomeryshire, Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 733

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:40

Obviously didn't look far enough.
Search for Lottie Hodson born between 1900 and 1910 in Shropshire. Only two:-
Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
Hodson Lottie Wolverhampton 6b 585
Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Hodson Lottie Atcham 6a 614a

Atcham is the registration district for Shrewsbury!!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:37

The marriage for the couple above:-
Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
HODSON John Frederick Atcham 6a 1377
OAKLEY Elizabeth Atcham 6a 1377
The district Atcham spans the boundaries of the counties of Montgomeryshire and Shropshire

The marriage certificate will give the couples father's name and professions which will help find them on the census records.

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Nov 2008 15:35

Well done Cassidy, Susan sent me a pm to say that Lottie had a brother called Fred so could well be what she's looking for!!

Cassidy

Cassidy Report 26 Nov 2008 12:32

Hi Susan,This could be the Family.

Lottie Hodson born 3rd March 1908 registered Atcham,Shropshire and brother,Henry Frederick born 1st January 1905
Parent's John Frederick Hodson and Elizabeth Oakley who married 29th September 1905 ,Atcham,Shropshire

This information was taken from WW1 Service record's for John Frederick Hodson.

Address given as 5,Derfald Street,Shrewsbury.