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Hi Sue, thanks for the information on Maddison. They may connected. Edmund did not have a sister called Isabella so I cant place her at all. But I will keep your post on my records, something might come up and I am sure I will get there in the end

Many thanks
Kathy

Kathleen I've had a dodgy internet connection for a few days after a storm and am catching up

Unfortunately though Edmund/Edward may have said in 1934 that William Maddison was his brother in law - I guess we can't take it as absolute gospel.

I can't find a marriage of either of his sisters that suits - but I've only looked on FreeBMD as I haven't got time to go through those that haven't been transcribed yet quarter by quarter I'm afraid

There was a William Maddison travelled to Canada in 1929 from Co Durham that could fit

Name: William MADDISON
Date of departure: 20 April 1929
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age)
Age: 38
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Miner

He travelled with his wife Isabella MADDISON (30) and 2 sons Robert MADDISON (9) and Arthur MADDISON (5)

Ship:MONTROYAL
Official Number:120940
Master's name:Capt A Freer
Steamship Line:Canadian Pacific
Where bound:Quebec, Canada
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:9026
Passengers on voyage:485

They gave an address in UK as 9, Mt Pleasant, Penshaw, Co Durham. Google maps suggests this is reasonably close to Hebburn (less than 10 miles by road today) but we'd only be guessing if we tried to make a connection between them I'm afraid

Have you seen this site - http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

I fear though the dates you are looking at are going to be too recent to have much information available online

Wishing you continued Good Luck in your search

Sue

Any help welcome
Cheers
Kathy

Hi, here is another bit of the puzzel, when Edmund left for Canada he said he was going to join brother in law mr william maddison in british colombia. Edmund had 2 sisters that I know of, Sarah Jane and Mary Ann. So one of these must have married William maddison. (how sad this came to me in the middle of the night). Sarah was age 12 in 1901, and Mary was age 6. So what I am looking for is a marriage for one of them to William Maddison.

Also can anyone tell me if there is a site for Canada, a bit like this one that I could post a query for Chater decendants.

Hope to here from anyone

Thanks
Kathy

Sorry Kathleen - your sleepy head - Byrne could well have been her sister Elizabeth's married name.

The birth for Edith - the eldest child looks to have been

Edith C O Chaters 1921 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear

Per FreeBMD though mothers maiden name was Campbell - so I also wondered if Jane had been married before but no time to look in to it - there isn't a registration though that jumps out at me for the 2 year old John

Oh well - it wouldn't be so much fun if everything was obvious would it????

Cheers
Sue

hi, just a thought, Jane gave her next of kin as her sister, elizabeth byrne 62 also livingin edmund st hebburn, if she was her sister her maiden name would have been Jane byrne. I wonder if I am right any ideas out there. I will have to catch up tomorrow as I am falling asleep, please leave any messages I will get back to you tomorrow.
Cheers
Kathy

Hi Sue, thanks, the census record I have said Edward, but have talen aother look at the image and it is Edmund, well there you go, I should know by now to always look at the image's. I also found the birth ref, but as it was Edmund I was not sure about it. so it looks like All the info on Edmund could be correct. The only other niggle is that his wife Jane left England with 2 children, Edith who must have been born abt 1921. The marriage that has been posted was in 1929. So I think that will need to be looked at as well. I wonder if Jane had been married before, she was 5 year older then Edmund. Will need to get certs at some point, maybe after xmas when things settle down and the purse is a bit heavier, ha ha.
Anyway thanks to all who have helped please leave the posts on here untill I can save them to my PC
Best wishes
Kathy

Hi Kathleen - I see him as Edmund on the 1901 census

Edmund Chayters (father) William,
(mother) Sarah J (born) abt 1900 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth, Durham

This would be his birth record I guess

Edmund Chaters 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Gateshead Durham, Tyne and Wear

Good Luck with it and yell out if you want the extra refs to order certs.

Cheers
Sue

Hi Sue this is a tricky one, he is named as Edward in 1901, Civil parish:Heworth
Ecclesiatical parish St Mary Town:Wardley (Gateshead)
County/Island:Durham

Edward Chayters 7M Durham Heworth Durham Heworth

Edmund, well I wonder if he changes his name? His passage back to Canada would fit in with his visit to my gran in the late 1950s, I dont remember much of him, we as children were told to call him uncle Ned, so he was always known as Uncle Ned from canada, its only since I starte doing my family history that it came back to me.

Any help always welcome
Thanks
Kathy

There was an Edmund (note - not Edward) Chaters married Jane Fletcher in the Gateshead reg district in the 4th qtr of 1929 - ref 10a 1843

He returned to Canada from his late 50's visit in Tourist Class on the CARINTHIA - travelling again as Edmund

Sailing Date: 15 January 1960
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination: Halifax, Canada
Date of Birth: 4 August 1900
Age: 60 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Foreman

The UK address he gave was recorded as 150 Cuthferts Road, Gateshead (possibly supposed to be St Cuthberts?)

Cheers
Sue

Hi, Wardley is a district of Gateshead, its not far from where I live. This is why it made me think it was him. Census 1901 have his birth as Gateshead. So Wardley will fit OK.
Well, my ancesters were named Chater, but for some reason by the time my father was born the S was added making it Chaters, odd but I have all the main line birth/marriage certs also parish record going back to the 1700s. So I know its right.
I will try a letter as suggested it cant do any harm.
Thanks again
Kathy

The immigration record that Lorraine found lists Wardley as his birthplace. I tried google searches and found your (think it was your) prior posting stating that your Edward was born in Gateshead, Durham. I can't get a straight answer when I google, but it looks like Gateshead and Wardley are either next to each other, or one is the town and the other the district??? Anyway, this could be a clue to determining if the Edward immigration record is correct.

If they married in Canada, you probably won't find their marriage. (Canadian records, unfortunately, are fairly private.) Since most of my ancestors were already in Canada by 1860, another GR member would be able to correctly advise how to order English records. I will continue to look for Chaters in Canada.

Sorry, is the name Chater or Chaters, please?

Hi Lisa, it is possible, it was the Chater living Hebburn also his birth Wardley that made me think it was them. They may have came back to England. The only time I ever seen Edward was in the late 1950s when he came for a holiday and lodged with my gran. Anything is possible at the minute as I am just gettig into it. I would like to find a marriage for Edward Chater to Jane, given the ages of the children Jane sailed with they could have married early 1920s, can you suggest where I could trace this marriage. I have tried BMD with no luck.
est wishes
Kathy

There are four Chaters living in British Columbia. You could try writing to them.
http://www.411.com/

Kathy: Are you sure the above people that Lorraine found are yours?

There is a Jane Chaters, died 1978, age 84, Burnaby (BC).
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2666147/gbsearch/Deaths

There may be other family members on that site as well.

Hi Margaret and Lorraine, the record would fit, my grandfather, Richard Chater lived in Lyon st Hebburn, so it was only a 2 min walk away from Edwards Address. This is all new to me, Now I have this information how do I go about traceing any decendants they might have in Canada.
Thanks so much for the information. I would love to find them.

Please get back to me if you can help
Kathy

There's an Edward Chaters who emigrated to Canada 6 April 1934, age 33, aboard the Montclair, Canadian Pacific.

there are two entries for passenger lists


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Edward Chaters
Name: Edward Chaters
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 6 Apr 1934
Vessel: Montclare
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montclare' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14833

born wardley england
going to join brother in law mr william maddison in british colombia
occupation mining labourer

next of kin wife mrs jane chaters 44 edmund st hebburn


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Edward Chaters
Name: Edward Chaters
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 23 Mar 1934
Vessel: Duchess of York
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of York' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14833


same details as above but his name is crossed out and it says he was not board

think this is his wife and children going to join him

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Jane Chaters
Name: Jane Chaters
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 28 Oct 1934
Vessel: Letitia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Letitia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-14789

with jane are
edith aged 13
john aged 2

going to join husband edmund chaters british columbia

janes next of kin in uk is sister elizabeth byrne 62 edmund st hebburn

Hi, I have my grandfathers brother Edward Chaters as having emigrated to canada, sometime in 1930s. He came to England and stayed with my gran in the late 1850s, for a holiday. That is all I know of him. where would I start to look for him, can anyone help
Thanks
Kathy