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Fairthorn, you do need the DOB for anyone born in the last 50 years, if they were born more than 50 years ago then you can order it off just the GRO index no. Guess its done to protect privacy but must be very frustraighting for people like Zannamar.

I will say I am suprised you don't have to wait longer just to get it off the ref, espically with people living longer.

Good luck Zannamar.

Angie

You do not need the DOB to order on-line just the reference numbers etc

ROBERT GUY mmn BODFISH
between J/A/S 1962 in FYLDE
ref 10c 340
page 74


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Hi Fairthorn,

no I wasn't the eldest child, i was no 6 in the pecking order. There were either 8 or 9 children in total and i have met the 5 that remained with either parent after they divorced. One brother died in 1959 of a cot death and after his death i was born, follwed by 2 or 3 brothers. The youngest boy was not adopted but the other/s were. I think i may have found the birth record on one born in 1962 in the Blackpool area as i have been told my parents were at a holding camp in wigan and it is the only one i can find with my mothers maiden name of Bodfish. Neither my birth parents (sadly my mother died last year) have been any help with providing any information. As i have tried to order a copy of the relevant certificate i think i will have tp contact the records office because i cannot order on line without the date of birth. I have tried but it just wont let me.

Angie

Thanks EvieBeavie, will do as you suggest and add unknown brothers to my tree. I have met my birth father Edward and my birth mother, who sadly passed last year, but both have been very reluctant to provide any information. My mother said she had nine children and i have met the ones raised with either parent after their divorce. My father however, states there were only 8 and only one other adopted after me. I was no 6 in the pecking order. LOL

Angie

is there the chance that your brothers were born in the UK OR on another Army base ?

The problem is the overseas birth records do not put the mother's maiden name only the year of birth & where born.


PS are you def. the oldest child
just because you were perhaps the first to be adopted does not make you the oldest ..............

ie if you were adopted in say ,1961 how could there be 2 more children born between you born in 1960 & the further adoptions in 1961 /1962 ..........."if the marriage was in trouble "

There are overseas births PRIOR to 1960 that could fit if your dad was based elsewhere ie GERMANY

Oh no - no relation at all? Sometimes coincidences are good, but not always.

Does he know about the other two, i.e. are they his family?

Do have a look at FMP. I don't subscribe there so can't be any use. (I don't mind using the odd credit where I have them left over, like scotlandspeople, but have just never had any need for them at FMP, and I know that people here are very reluctant to do third-party lookups there any more because FMP has been auditing use and sending out threats to cut off service.)

One thing you might do is add to two "unknown Guy"s born in Singapore 1961 and 1962 to your tree. Or even add one for every possible year your brothers might have been born. Someone else in your position might search trees for surname Guy for those years and find you some day.

What about the person whose tree matched on your father? (From what I could tell, anyhow.) I don't want to pry, you may not want to contact him, just wanted to make sure you'd seen that one too.

EvieBeavie,

Please be assured that I have not ignored your comments or suggestions. I have made contact with Steven and unfortunately it is only coincidene that we share the same surname and both born in Singapore. Sadly he is not one of my brothers.

I do appreciate the help you have given me.

Kind regards

Angie - Fairthorn provided you with the details of the birth that appears to match the person in the tree here at GR.

I'm wondering what you actually want - data, or contact with your siblings?

If it's contact, why are you more interested in getting access to records than in using the GR system to make contact, as I have described how to do, and as you seem to be ignoring?

In any event, I think it would cost very little to view the records you want to view at FindMyPast. You don't need a subscription; you can buy the minimum credits and use them to view.

http://www.findmypast.com/OverseasStartSearchServlet?mode=A&searchType=B

For GUY births 1950-1975 there are 14 results. Obviously I fired very wide.

£6.95 for 60 credits.

I can't actually tell what it would cost to view one of the records in that list -- I'd guess it's an "overseas bmd" record, which would be one credit.

I can't imagine that £6.95 would be too much to pay to find your siblings.

One thing to note is that many people who use FMP are not offering many lookups, because FMP has threatened to cut off people who are using it for other than "personal" research.

Does anyone have access to findmypast that could provide me with the details i am looking for?

GRO Army Births are on www.findmypast.com which is pay to view.

Angie / Zannamar, you've changed your name -- I mention, to avoid confusion.

I believe those births may be searchable here at GR; I don't subscribe, but Fairthorn can probably explain.

I trust that the explanation of how to search trees, and whom you might find, was useful.

How do I check GRO Army Births Indicies?

Angie - to search trees, look above this thread on your monitor.

Third from the left in the row of buttons is "Search Trees" -- this is the main tool this website provides, apart from the free labour of all of us who pay for the privilege of helping out. ;)

Click that button, and then just search for

surname Guy
place of birth Singapore

You will see yourself, with you as the tree owner.

You will also see 3 other people, in 3 other people's trees.

Julie 1970
Steven 1962 - he seems to be the member here, with himself in his own tree
Robert 1956

Can't be certain, but it seems like a very good chance that those two are your brothers, and you may even have a sister.

I would contact Steven first, since he seems to be a member here himself.

Click on the "Find out more" button beside his name and a box will open for sending him a message.

This is a very clumsy way of contacting a possible brother for the first time, and how you word your message will be up to you. The fact that he is a member here could mean that he too is searching for his siblings. Or he might not know about you at all. It's a delicate situation.

Hopefully, he is still a member of GR. Even if he isn't, as long as he still uses the email address he used to register here, he will get notification of your message and be able to reply to it here.

You might want to confirm your relationship before you show him your family tree. If so, be sure to *uncheck* the box that says "Allow this member to view my family tree".

The person who has Julie in his tree also has the surname Guy (when you click "Find out more", you can see the name of the tree owner).

One other thing -- I searched for Edward Guy born 1925-1935, and I see you have your father in your tree, born 1934 Devonport.

Do that search too. The same Edward Guy is in the tree of a GR member named Edward Guy. If you want to contact your father, it's possible that's him (or it could be a son, for example).

Very best of luck.

Births , GRO ARMY BIRTH INDICES (1881 to 1965) 1956 - 1960

This is where your birth is registered

There is the STEVEN M GUY from GR trees registered in CHANGI ( Singapore ) 1962 ref 24 100

There are other Male Guy births so perhaps your father was stationed somewhere else after Singapore.

Hi sorry am new to all this and just funbling my way through. I am not sure how to search others trees so if anyone can help then please give me some helpful advice.

My birth name was Suzanna Maria Guy and i was born on 1st April 1960. I haveno idea exactly when my brothers were born only that it would be 1961 and 1962

Angie, have *you* searched trees for Guy born in Singapore (if that's where your brothers were born)?

Three other GR members have Guys born in Singapore, 1956, 1962 and 1970, in their trees. The births in 1956 and 1962 are both boys.

Did a search trees ... your problem, Suzanne, would be that Angie was born in Singapore.

Useful to mention these things, Angie. Saves people wasting time like this ...

Hi
Is Suzanna Guy your original birth name? Unfortunately I cannot find a registration in that name from1960-61?
Do you know when your brothers were born? Do you know what your birth mothers' maiden name was?
regards
Sue

My name is Suzanna Guy and I was born in 1960 to Edward and Barbara Anne Guy. I am looking for 2 brothers, who like me, were born to these parents but subsequently adopted between 1961 & 1962. If you have any information then please send me a message