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ok i have marriage cert it states: william besley aged 21 father stephen besley married elizabeth hannah waterman aged 23 father william waterman date: may 19th 1902 at the parish church of wiveliscombe somerset. witnessed by harry john waterman and ellen jordan(not sure if surname is right its a bit hard to read).
So above census are the wrong family!!! I think!!

Wow!! Great work guys . Thanks very much.:)

Ethel


Great job on the 1881 census, I missed the G completely.


Victor

possible marriage of Bickhams parents.


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James Waterman Pedigree
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Spouse: Mary Burnett Family
Marriage: 27 JUL 1823 Brampton Ralph, , Somerset, England



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This is not a confirmed entry so it needs to be checked in parish records.


Victor

Hi Sylvia. Not sure how much info you have. I see you have got the census records back to 1851 but some of this may help.

Elizabeth ANNA born 1879 April/June Qtr. reg in Williton. S Set. vol 5c 309

Marr 1902 April/June Qtr./ reg in Wellington. nvol 5c 499

Died 1904. Jan/Mar Qtr. reg in Taunton. vol 5c 239

On 1881 Eliz is shown as Grandaughter to Bickham, but on the 1891 she is shown as Daughter. born Stogumber.

The Marriage cert will give Father's name and occupations.

I think the Birth I have fo9und is the right one and that should give both parents and a chance to prove her parentage.

Cannot find them on 1901. Her second name varies from Hannah, Anna and Ann. Ethel.

Parents marriage.


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Jones Mary Williton 5c 513
Waterman Bickham Williton 5c 513



Victor

1841 England Census
about Bickm Waterman
Name: Bickm Waterman
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Brompton Ralph
Hundred: Williton and Freemanners
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogumber
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Allen 20
Bickm Waterman 15
Thomas Dibble 12


Bickham is listed as a Male servant and living next door to this family.

1841 England Census
about James Waterman
Name: James Waterman
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Brompton Ralph
Hundred: Williton and Freemanners
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogumber
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Waterman 40
Mary Waterman 30
Jane Waterman 12
Mary Waterman 10


Are these his parents?


James is listed as an Ag Lab.

Victor

1851 England Census
about Bickham Waterman
Name: Bickham Waterman
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Brompton Ralph, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Brompton Ralph
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Minehead
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
John Bale 27
Mary A Bale 28
Sarah Bale 4
Amos Bale 2
William Bale 7 Mo
Bickham Waterman 26


Bickham is listed as an Ag Lab


Victor

1861 England Census
about Mary Waterman
Name: Mary Waterman
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Beckham
Gender: Female
Where born: Brompton Ralph, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Wiveliscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Dunster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Wellington
Sub registration district: Wiveliscombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Beckham Waterman 37
Mary Waterman 37
Elizabeth A Waterman 7
William Waterman 5
John Waterman 2
Henry Waterman 2 Mo

Bickham is listed this time as a Carter.

Victor

To confirm here is the 1871.


1871 England Census
about Mary Waterman
Name: Mary Waterman
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Bickham
Gender: Female
Where born: Brompton Ralph, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Brompton Ralph
Ecclesiastical parish: Bath and Wells
Town: Brompton Ralph
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogumber
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Bickham Waterman 46
Mary Waterman 49
John Waterman 12
Henry Jem Waterman 10
Bickham Waterman 6


This time it is clear and the name is Bickham, he is listed as an agricultural labourer.

This family is based on the birth reference you gave in your original message.

Victor

Yes Victor i think that is her family althought its not clear if the parents are Bickham and mary they seem a bit old!!! But i think i will need to send for her marriage and birth cert to get more info.
Thanks
Sylvia

Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
Besley Elizabeth Annie 24 Taunton 5c 239

when you have her fathers name, you stand a far better chance of finding her

This looks like her.


1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Ann Waterman
Name: Elizabeth Ann Waterman
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Gender: Female
Where born: Stogumber, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Stogumber
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: Rexton
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogumber
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bickham Waterman 56
Mary Waterman 57
John Waterman 22
Henry Jem Waterman 20
Elizabeth Ann Waterman 2


Fathers name difficult to read on the original, look like Bicklam??? He is listed as a Farm Labourer.

Victor

there's a Moreton in Dorset I don't know if there's another

I dont know sorry.

I have this marriage:
Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
Besley William Wellington, Som. 5c 499
Waterman Elizabeth Hannah Wellington, Som. 5c 499

what was her fathers name?

Im trying to find out any info on Elizabeth Waterman, I know she married william Besley and she died in child birth of her only child Thomas in 1904. I am thinking that william gave thomas to his brother stephen Besley and fanny to bring up as their own as i have found him on the 1911 census as their son.

Im wondering if there is anyone who knows anyhing else? Who was Elizabeths family? On freebmd i have her middle name as hannah and annie, on Thomas cert her middle name is annie.

Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
Waterman Elizabeth Anna Williton 5c 309