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I only have the word of her oldest grandchild to go on
I will send off for some more certs as it is the only way forward
Thanks for all your help so far
it is much appreciated

Ok, so the head was definately William Cotterill and they lived in Newport? Do you have the birth certificate of any of their children to confirm that Sarah/Selina was actually a Hughes?

Sam x

her grandchildren knew her as Selina
Perhaps it was just a nickname?
i am working backwards from the Cotterills
Its the only marriage that fits

The one from Northampton
1871
Sarah A T Hughes John,Abigail abt 1866 Floore, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Flore, Northamptonshire
1901
Sarah Ann S Hughes abt 1866 Flore, Northamptonshire, England Servant Heathfield, Sussex

Where have you had the same of Selina from? Are you sure you have the marriage of the right Sarah?

Sam x

This is the one we have found on the census so far... I'll go and see if I can find Sarah Ann Selina!

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Sarah Ann Hughes Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 JAN 1866 St Mary, Bilston, Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: Abram Hughes Family
Mother: Elizabeth

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C010566 1848 - 1885 1278829 Film NONE

This gets stranger... this is the only Sarah Ann Selina Hughes I can find, born in neither Newport or Bilston...

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Sarah Ann Selina Hughes Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 OCT 1865 Floore, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: John Hughes Family
Mother: Abigail Hughes
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I007043

Perhaps the one on Freebmd is her after all?

Okay thanks
I'll do that,but I don't want to upset the family as they are convinced they are Welsh!

Not according to the census evidence. Even when she was living in Newport, she gives her place of birth as Bilston. She may well have ties to Newport but that doesn't mean she was born there.

If you get a copy of her marriage certificate it will tell you her fathers name and occupation and will make it easier to find her in earlier censuses which will help confirm her birthplace.

I can't find anything that references the name Selina either? This looks like Sarah A Hughes in 1881 and both Sarah and her parents were born in Bilston...

Name: Sarah A. Hughes
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Bristol St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hughes 51
Elizabeth Hughes 42
James Hughes 17
Sarah A. Hughes 15
Elizabeth Hughes 13
Abraham Hughes 11
Walter Hughes 9
William Hughes 7
Thomas Lawley 2
James Hill 40

Sam x

Thanks for the census info
The family was surely from newport as they returned there quite often
perhaps its sarah's parents who were Welsh?

No, I think this is one of those cases of family being wrong!! She was clearly born in Bilston and moved to Wales later in life.

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1881
Sarah A. Hughes Abraham,
Elizabeth abt 1866 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Daughter Bilston, Staffordshire

The family told me she was Welsh
I think this is one of the cases where people put down where they were living as their birth place

1901 Wales Census
about Sarah Cotterell
Name: Sarah Cotterell
Age in 1901: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: Maindee St John
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
William Cotterell 39
Sarah Cotterell 35
William Cotterell 14
Lily Cotterell 13
Alfred Cotterell 11
Ethel Cotterell 9
Rosey Cotterell 6
Joseph Morton 37
Joseph Bills 21
Jane Bills 20

This looks like the Sarah Ann that married William Cotterill in 1885... and she was born in Bilston, England not Wales

Name: Sarah A Cotterill
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Cotterill 28
Sarah A Cotterill 26
Lilley Cotterill 3
Alfred Cotterill 1

How do you know that she was born in Wales? Do you have a copy of her marriage certificate which will tell you her fathers name and occupation?

Where is she in 1891?

Sam x

Am trying to find parents of sarah Ann Selena hughes born c 1865
She was a lady of welsh extraction who as far as we know returned to Newport where she was known as Selina Cotterill,having married William Cotterill in West bromwich in 1885
There is one sarah ann Selina Hughes on Freebmd of right age but can't be her as there is no Welsh connection
can anyone see her any where as I am totally stuck on this?
many thanks.