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I'm trying to find any information on my Great Grand Mother, ANNIE BOND. She was born in 1903 approx, and married EDWARD ALBERT SAVAGE in West Ham London at the end of 1922. There were 6 children. Nancy, William, Eric, Ronald, Florence and Sydney. Annie was sick for most of her life and spent a lot of her time in a convalesant home on the Isle of Wight.I believe she died of TB in1940. I have'nt been able to find any record of her birth or death anywhere. Does anyone have any info for me please

I found an Annie Savage aged 37 died in Epping, Essex in 1940. Would that be her?

You probably really need to get her marriage certificate. That will give you her age at marriage and her father's name and occupation (if she stated them). Without that info, you're pretty much casting around in the dark.

You seem to have the marriage registration details, which can be found at

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

in case not.

If you do actually have the certificate already, can you provide the info it gives? Age and father's name and occupation, and also names of witnesses, who might be, for example, a married sister. Every little bit can help track down her birth and parents, if that's what you're looking for!

Phew. I figured out that the message from someone with a very different name --

"Thanks for getting back to me.
I don't actually have any definate details. All i have is what an uncle told me a good while ago. It is the Marriage certificate that i am trying to get hold of. without all the details i'm stuck."

was about this thread!

First request -- please always reply in the thread rather than by private message. We busybody helpers often post in a dozen or more threads a day, and we can easily get confused.

Click on the purple Reply button at the *top* of the thread and a box will open for typing a reply. About the most user-unfriendly system you can imagine, I know.


For the marriage certificate -- go to the site I linked above:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk - click on the red search.

Search for marriages, and just use the two names you have:

Bond
Annie
Savage
Edward

no date or place needed, and like magic, the marriage will appear. Click on the page number and you'll see both names.

Take the registration data -- quarter, year, district, volume, date -- and order the certificate:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

And then when you get it, come back to this thread -- you can always find it by clicking on "My Threads" on the left of the discussion boards -- and tell us what you've got, and we'll set our minds to it!

Meanwhile ... if you're interested in Bond surname trivia ...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1100652

;)

Marriages Dec 1922 (>99%)
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BOND Annie Savage W. Ham 4a 642


alot of Annie Bond births so need to narrow down the location

Yeah, that was the marriage I was explaining to Sophee how to find ...


I'm a Bond myself, back a few generations (see the link in earlier post). Who knows? Maybe Sophee and I are cousins. ;)

Hi Evie
I hope iv'e done it right this time.
Do you do this for a living or is it just a hobby? What ever it is i thank you.
I spend hours looking on all these different sights and find nothing, then within minutes of my posting a request for help, you and someone else like you has found what iv'e been looking for.
Are you really amazing or am i really thick!!!
Would you really want me as a cousin?
Will get to the link ASAP

It's practice that makes practically perfect. ;)

Once you've met FreeBMD, you'll smack your head, and you won't be as impressed with the rest of us. Oh, and the important thing is that FreeBMD is free. Never pay to search for births, marriages & deaths.

For your next trick, after findng the Annie Bond + Edward Savage marriage, search for their children's births:

births
surname Savage
mother's surname Bond

Don't worry about dates and places, as that will only find births from 1911 onward (when mother's surname started to be included in the index).

There was evidently a Bond-Savage couple before yours, as there are children with those surnames born before 1922, in Lewisham. Your West Ham Bond children are mostly there (some may not be transcribed yet), plus one who may have died in infancy since he's not in your list. You can also search for his death after his birth date, although you might not find it yet.

If you get the marriage certificate, you can come back with the info on it -- ages, fathers' names, etc. -- for help going back farther if you like. Just post again in the thread. Knowing Annie's age will make it easier to find her death, e.g. to see whether the one Lewella found matches.

Hi Evie.

My next trick as you put it is going to be easier than you think, .....finding Bond Savage children. I already have them all, except the one you mention that died in infancy. Do you have his name by any chance. Nancy was my Mum. They have all died except Eric. I managed to make contact with him after about 30 years. he is very old and remembers next to nothing, so isn't able to help me much. Annie Bond died quite young and edward remarried and had another child. John. Florence Savage married Raymond Smith. She also died young but i have no details on either of them at all.
Will be in touch again after i recieve the bond savage marriage certificate.
Joan

Hi there all you kind people that have been helping me with this. I now have the marriage cartificate of Annie Bond and Edward Savage. They were married October 1922. Edward 21 and Annie 20. Both living at the same address, 39 Clacton Road Walthamstow. Edwards father was William Robert Savage, and Annies father was Edward Robert Bond. If anyone has any more info on these two i'd love to hear it.

Have you looked at FreeBMD for the marriages?

Fire wide. The parents may have been married well before the children were born. Looks like Bond was, in any case. If he's the one who married in Islington, which he isn't necessarily of course.

And coming from the other direction, have you searched the 1911 census?

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Look for Annie Bond born 1903 +/- 3 years with an Edward Bond in the household. You will see her in West Ham.

Okay, it's a little complicated, having to sort out different households, so I'll give you those results.

I'm not paying for access, so I can't be sure these results are perfect, i.e. that these are all the same household. I think it looks like this (people in a household in West Ham with an Edward and Annie in).

BOND EDWARD 1863 48 West Ham Essex
BOND ANNIE 1867 44 West Ham Essex
BOND ANNIE 1903 8 West Ham Essex

And actually I can't sort out the rest (without paying) because there's at least one other household mixing it up with them, since it has a Florence Annie and a Charles Edward whom I can't filter out.

I'd recommend you buy credits and access the 1911 household. It will give you info like places of birth that you kind of need to identify the household in the 1901.

This could well be them in 1901. There are an Edith and an Alfred in the 1911 list of possibles.

Name: Edward Bond
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Where born: London, England

Name: Annie Bond
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Where born: Axminster, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Hackney

Edward Bond 38
Annie Bond 33
Edward Bond 12
John Bond 10
Alfred Bond 6
Edith Bond 1


Oh look! Devon! Except Annie Bond Sr. isn't a Bond. ;)

The fathers' occupations on the marriage certificate?

How about witnesses' names? Do any look like siblings of the spouses?


The 1901 Edward Bond in the previous post was a bone cutter in 1901, and Annie Sr. was a brush drawer.

1891 - no guarantee it's the right couple of course.

Name: Edward Bond
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil Parish: Walthamstow

Edward Bond 28
Annie Bond 24
Edward Bond 2
John Bond 7/12


Name: Edward Bond
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Annie
Where born: Islington, London, England


I was hoping that his birth would be obvious at FreeBMD, but it isn't.


The ER Bond marriage in Islington I had my eye on wasn't to an Annie, unless Annie was really Elizabeth Anne. And Maeer isn't a very Devonish surname.

Thank you for all that.
On the certificate Edward Robert Bond was a Brush Maker. The Witnesses Just apear to be friends. Emily May Vickery and J T South.

We have a long week end break so i won't be on line until about the 9th.
Thanks again for what you have done, Will set to work on it again when we get back

Oh -- and it looks likely that the death Lewella found is the right one!