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thanks Catherine but sorry not him. His wife's name was Ann Ward. I have a birth certificate of one of his daughters and the baptism records of 9 of his children. I have just written to Liverpool to ask them to check the registers of the church where all his children and previuosly his wife were baptised (plus the marriage of his in-laws). Unfortunately the registers at our CRO do not go quite far enough - they finish at 1841 and their 1st child was born in 42 so could have been that year.

Only birth I could find for an Annie G. Edwards, anywhere between 1865 and 1867:-

Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
Edwards Annie Gertrude Hampstead 1a 566
The district Hampstead spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, London and Middlesex

might give some clues as to who she belongs to?

This is the only marriage I could see for a William Cartwright between 1841 and 1851 in Liverpool:-

Marriages Sep 1848 (>99%)
Cartwright William Liverpool 20 136
Doogan Mary Liverpool 20 136
JONES Elizabeth Liverpool 20 136
KELLEY Eliza Liverpool 20 136
KELLEY James Liverpool 20 136
MARSHALL Harriet Jane Corinthan Liverpool 20 136
MARSHALL Harriet Jane Earnshaw Liverpool 20 136
McCall William Liverpool 20 136
TINNEY George Liverpool 20 136

any good?

I have looked for Sarah's marriage before but have only just found it as the page no was mistranscribed. I think spending some cash on her marriage cert might be a good idea to confirm her parents.

I have just about everything on brother William (born 1814) from 1841onwards except his marriage. By 1841 he was a policeman (unmarried but living next door to his future wife) in Liverpool where he remained for the rest of his life.
I wonder who Annie was - maybe a niece as she does not appear in 1881.

By the way, the Annie in 1871 census is noted as Visitor!

thanks Catherine that certainly looks right for 1871. I wonder if 170 Lee Rd was the actual address of the Old Cemetery which is how it is described in 1861 & 81. I have just looked at 1881 again and looked at the households either side which all seem to be uninhabited and firms names such as Gt Western Railway premises.

So what do you know about brother William and what do you want to find out about him?

That must be them then!!

in 1861 John was a solicitor's clerk and in 1881 he was registrar of B'ham general cemetary. I think Sarah only had one child Hannah in c1859

1871?:-

Name: Sarah J Edwouds
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Edgbaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

170 Lee Bank Road

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 164
Household Members:
Name Age
John Edwouds 43 born: Birmingham (Solicitors General Clerk)
Sarah J Edwouds 43
Hannah M Edwouds 11
Annie G Edwouds 5

What was her husbands profession and did she have any children in 1871?

thank you
I think her parents names were possibly William & Hannah. I am using her to try to confirm the parents of her brother William who had left home by 1841. Her husband John is named in William's will as executor living in the Old cemetery, birmingham. I found the possible parents names on the IGI - sorry I should have mentioned them on the post.

catherine - I think that is Sarah

Is this her?:-

SARAH JANE CARTWRIGHT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 17 DEC 1828
Gender: Female Christening: 29 DEC 1828 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Father: WILLIAM CARTWRIGHT
Mother: HANNAH

Possible for Sarah Jane in 1851 census?

Name: Sarah Cartwright
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Kew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Richmond
Sub registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Cartwright 52 b Leominster Herfordshire
Mary A Cartwright 52
Sarah Cartwright 23
Isaac Collerell 88 Father in Law widower b Wednesfield Staffs

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Possibility for 1851:-

Name: Sarah Cartwright
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Kew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Occupation: Milliner

Registration district: Richmond
Sub registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Cartwright 52 born: Leominster, Herefordshire
Mary A Cartwright 52
Sarah Cartwright 23
Isaac Collerell 88

Did her father have a brother Richard?

What were her parents names and fathers profession?

Please could anyone find Sarah Jane in 1841 & 51 probably in Birmingham.
Also in 1871 married to John Edmonds again in Birmingham.
I have found her in 1861/81 & 91

edit - still looking for 1841 - possible parents William & Hannah b late 1700's.