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me to going bit goggle eyed goodnight good luck

im not 100% sure but i think maybe 1896 sycamore st is close to panmure st which my grandad was born in in 1905 . i got his mum,s name wrong it was frances mary (lambton) and also i think frances brother also lived with them. i must call it anight i have work early so need some sleep ty again for all your help.goodnight and god bless .

1901 CENSUS

Address 63 Sycamore St
Civil Parish Elswick
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary The Virgin
Parliamentary Borough or Division Newcastle On Tyne
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Newcastle On Tyne
Administrative County
Householder 1
Name Mary A Oliver
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Newcastle On Tyne
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name William Oliver
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation General Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Newcastle On Tyne
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name William R Oliver
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Newcastle On Tyne
Language
Infirmity
possible for william and mary when did they marry

hi amanda am having problems with computer too this might explain bit what his job was
The description is failry broad but they acted as agents for other parties in this way.

If Mr A was in London but wanted to import tea, for instance, in Bristol he would want his interests looked after and would employ an agent to do this for him locally in return for a fee or commission. In this way he did not need to be in Bristol but was not at the mercy of local dock workers and shipping agents who might rip him off.

The term applied to all kinds of work, not just shipping, but was simply the employment of a local agent to look after your interests.

the 1861 looks to be correct wendy . what is a commission agent ? i do appreciate all your hard work . i,m a bit slow when it comes to things like cencus (lol) .

ty wendy my server playing up !!! maybe something to do with the bad weather. john looks like a good hit . my grandfather was john ernest oliver born in 1905 . his father was william oliver and his mother was mary lambton . i dont seem to be able to find them on freebmd. i do know that my grandad was born here in newcastle and lived in panmure st elswick which no longer exists

hi amanda just thought the 1841 was a possible or maybe its me getting confuse old age lol

possible 1891 for john
1891 census

Name John Oliver
Age 65
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation AGENT
Address 250 West Gate Road
District Westgate, Newcastle Upon Tyne
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Newcastle
Birth County ?
in house
john head 65
anne wife 60
annie daughter 23

i dont think this is same family wendy as arthur was a son of thomas and not head of house or am i reading it wrong.the adam you have in blenham street is more likely to be correct as this is close to ridley place . this may seem weird but i actualy work in ridley place !!!!

1861 census for john
1861 census

Name John Oliver
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household BROTHER
Occupation COMMISSION AGENT
Address 3 Wilkinton Bridge
District Newcastle upon Tyne, All Saints
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Newcastle
Birth County NORTHUMBERLAND
in house
adam oliver head 45 civil engineer
elizabeth wife 43
john i 16
mary 10
james l 8
charles e 5
john oliver brother 34
RG 9 / 3828

possible 1841 for family
1841 census

Name Thomas Oliver
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation CLERK
Address Orchard Street
District Newcastle upon Tyne
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Unknown
Birth County YES
in house
arthur head 50 coachman
jane wife 50
james 20
thomas 15
ann 14
HO 197 / 848 / 4

ty wendy i have just also found that adam was a civil engineer aswell, also james too.any chance you could find out what john,s profession was . i have a scrap of paper that tells me eliza married a reverend harcus and emigrated to australia.

census for adam
1841 census

Name Adam Oliver
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation ARCHITECT
Address Blenhiem Street
District Castle Ward, Newcastle upon Tyne & Tynemouth
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Unknown
Birth County YES
in house
margaret jasmine 15
william halls 75
adam oliver 25
HO 107 / 824 / 12

hi amanda have pm you the 1901 details

ty for your reply polly , ive been at work . i have thomas jnr born in 1824 . i would appreciate the bigger cencus if possible . i also know that he has two sister,s eliza (1822),jane(1818),and possibly 3 brothers james(1820),adam(1815) and a john (1826). i dont have anything else apart from maybe a son robert arthur who died in dec 1892 aged 39

1851 census

Name Thomas Oliver
Age 26
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation ARCHITECT
Address 50 Villier Street
District Sunderland, South Bishop Wearmouth
Parish
Administrative County Durham
Birth Place Newcastle on Tyne
Birth County
in house
thomas 26
elizabeth 26
elizabeth m 1 and a half
george 2 months
maria l dale sister in law 21
charles m smythe clerk 17
sarah coward servant 26
jane blakely serant 21
HO 107 / 2396

1861 census

Name Thomas Oliver
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation ARCHITECT
Address 1 Ridley Place North Side
District St Andrew, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Newcastle On Tyne
Birth County ?
in house
thomas 36
elizabeth 38
elizabeth m 11
george 10
florence 9
robert a 7
eugenie r 5
gertrude 3
RG 9 / 3821

1871 census

Name Thomas Oliver
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation ARCHITECT
Address 1 Ridley Place
District Newcastle upon Tyne, St. Andrew
Parish
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Newcastle
Birth County NORTHUMBERLANDSHIRE
in house
thomas head 46
elizabeth 48
elizabeth margaret 21
george 20
RG 10 / 5089

possible 1901
1901 census

Name Thomas Oliver
Relation to Head of Family Visitor
Age Last Birthday 76
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Architect
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Widower
Where Born Newcastle O T
Address Albany Hotel Robertson Ter
Civil Parish
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish
Parliamentary Borough or Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Hastings
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District
Language
the census is a lot bigger if you want full copy let me know

2 deaths listed in Newcastle

Deaths Mar 1904
OLIVER Thomas 71 Newcastle T. 10b 12

Deaths Jun 1904
OLIVER Thomas 67 Newcastle T. 10b 27