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CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:56

Oh dear - Smith and Jones, poor you!!!

And I thought Davies' in Wales was hard but at least I've only got one set.

If you need any more help just shout.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:50

Adolph in 1891

1891 England Census
about Adolph Friekolce
Name: Adolph Friekolce
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary M
Gender: Male
Where born: Pancrasweek, London, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Gray
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adolph Friekolce 26
Mary M Friekolce 25
Mary M F Friekolce 3

His marriage - shame that both brides are called Mary!! However, she's down in the census as Mary M so looking likely he married Mary Minnie Gardner.

Marriages Sep 1886 (97%)
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FRIEHOLD Adolph Marylebone 1a 1052
GARDNER Mary Minnie Marylebone 1a 1052
HOWSE Mary Ann Marylebone 1a 1052
PAINTER Frank Marylebone 1a 1052



Vicci

Vicci Report 10 Apr 2009 21:48

this might be of interest
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/rdleaflet.asp?sLeafletID=224

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:48

Here they are in 1871

1871 England Census
about Adolph Frichold
Name: Adolph Frichold
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ferdinand
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 538
Household Members: Name Age
Ferdinand Frichold 37
Mary Frichold 37
Willm Frichold 11
Adolph Frichold 6
Edouard Frichold 3
George Frichold 5 months


Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 21:45

NinjaLady, thankyou. That turns things right on their heads. That means he was a cousin on the female (Smith) side of the family, not the male(Jones) side. No, that isnt a joke. My grandmother was a Miss Jones, who married a Mr. Smith, and her mother was a Miss Smith who married a Mr. Jones. Researching can be quite difficult! Thanks again.

Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 21:38

Thats fantastic. I keep forgetting that stuff isnt always spelt the same way. I will learn, no doubt, as I keep on researching, but thats just the info I wanted. I know they had a tough time in the 14 18 war, so with that name too, I thought he might have a german father.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:38

Looks like Ferdinand married Mary Ann Smith if this death is his wife

Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Friehold Mary Ann 63 Marylebone 1a 381

Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 21:36

Thats fantastic. I keep forgetting that stuff isnt always spelt the same way. I will learn, no doubt, as I keep on researching, but thats just the info I wanted. I know they had a tough time in the 14 18 war, so with that name too, I thought he might have a german father.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:30

Not looking like Edward's mother was a Miss Jones

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
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Dupe Fanny Strand 1b 809
Friehold Ferdinand Strand 1B 809
Smith Mary Ann Strand 1b 809
White Richard James Strand 1b 809

Deaths Dec 1915 (>99%)
Friehold Ferdinand 82 Hammersmith 1a 427

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:26

Whooohoo - got them!!!

1901 England Census
about Alice G Frichold
Name: Alice G Frichold
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Alice M
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: South Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Frichold 33
Alice M Frichold 30
Edward J Frichold 6
Alice G Frichold 5
Ethel E Frichold 3
Walter Frichold 2
Ferdinald Frichold 61
Lily Berry 19


Looks like Edward's father is called Ferdinand and was born in Germany.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:22

Could this be a relation?

1901 England Census
about William Friehold
Name: William Friehold
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Friehold 41
Mary Friehold 37
William Friehold 12
Elanor Friehold 10
Dorothy Friehold 6
Horace Howlett 20
Grogina Gunner 19
Rebecca Grant 32
Amy Rose 27
Edith Crowe 21
Jane Fricker 39


CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:19

Frieholds born after 1893

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Friehold Dorothy Maud T Lambeth 1d 318

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Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Friehold Edward John F Pancras 1c 35

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Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Friehold Alice Gertrude Pancras 1b 27

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Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Friehold Ethel Caroline Marylebone 1a 549

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Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Friehold Walter Fulham 1a 239

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Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Friehold Walter Frank Lambeth 1d 326

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:17

Can't find them yet on any census - still looking.

Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 21:15

Thankyou so much. Sorry its taking a while to get back to you, my laptop seems very slow tonight.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 10 Apr 2009 21:09

His birth

Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
Friehold Edward George Kensington 1a 128

His marriage

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Berry Alice Maud Marylebone 1a 1160
Friehold Edward George Marylebone 1a 1160


His death

Deaths Jun 1934 (98%)
Friehold Edward G 66 Hammersmith 1a 284

Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 21:07

Yes, and no luck. He ought to be in various places, but just isnt!

Mark

Mark Report 10 Apr 2009 21:02

Have you tried freebmd or the igi

Mummycool

Mummycool Report 10 Apr 2009 20:58

I have had almost no luck tracing an ancestor, Edward George Friehold. He was married to an Alice Berry, born 1870 in Marylebone, and he was an antiquarian bookseller,again in Marylebone I think. I have a letter from him dated 1908(not written to me, I hasten to add) and he was my grandmothers close friend and cousin.I would be really grateful for any help, especially date of birth and parents names. Mother likely to have been a Miss Jones, but not neccesarily.