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For ages I have been struggling with a Susan Tapp from Exeter Devon-born about 1824 and had children called George and Bessie in 1858 and 1859-she is a tricky one-there are no births registered for George or Bessie-and she never married! She had a sister alled Mary Ann (I found out this from a newspaper article as well-they ran a lodging house in 1866)

Today I went to the Westcountry studies and found a newspaper article about a Susan Tapp from Exeter in 1862-she had twins (callewd Susan and Mary Ann)and basically neglected one of them and it died after only a few weeks-she had refused to go in the workhouse and narrowly escaped the death penalty. it mentioned they had been baptised

I found the private baptism. feb 11 1862-she was living at Catherine Street,Exeter-near the cathedral-this comes under the parish of 'precinct of the close' apparently!-it gave her occupation a straw bonnet maker. can anyone help me find her before then? I want to try and make certain she is the same Susan as my one with Bessie and George.-any ideas gratefully received!

There is this Susan Tapp in the 1851 census who is a Bonnet Maker. The age is out a bit but that's not unusual on the census:-

Name: Susan Tapp
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Teignmouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: West Teignmouth
Town: Teignmouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: Brook Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Teignmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age

Mary Tapp 66, head, widow, pauper
George Tapp 33, son, Mason
Mary Ann Tapp 24, daughter, Dressmaker
Susan Tapp 22, daughter, Bonnet Maker

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1870; Folio: 288; Page: 17; GSU roll: 221018.

1851 England Census
about Susan Tapp
Name: Susan Tapp
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Teignmouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: West Teignmouth
Town: Teignmouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Teignmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Tapp 66
George Tapp 33
Mary Ann Tapp 24
Susan Tapp 22

Thanks-the exminster ones definitely aren't-I'be been down that one-ordered certs and everything!

I think the teignmouth one is likely as well-its the bit in the middle I need to sort out- I did find a Bessie and George Webber with a mother Susan in 1861 Exeter-Would someone please have a look and see what her occupation was? it was ages ago and I don't have full accsess at the moment?-just wondering if it might be bonnets?. I do think the teignmouth one is good-it would have the sister Mary ANn and also she named a son George as well.

Keep the ideas coming! I just don't want to go wrong but proving things is so hard in this case.








I've just checked-and Mary ANn and George Tapp from Teignmouth are in Exeter as well-just not sure what she was up to inbetween

1871 England Census
about Susan Tapp / NO OCUPATION
Name: Susan Tapp
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Teignmouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Tapp 31
Berry Tapp 15 /Domestic Servant
George Tapp 12/Scholar
John Hoare 40 / Lodger Pedler



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2068; Folio: 33; Page: 11; GSU roll: 831775.

Source Information:

1871 is defo mine-there was a court case-John hoare (Susans lodger) chucked susan's daughter bessie down some stone stairs and nearly killed her-nice chap!- thanks

does 1871 give an occupation for susan?

thanks-I guess she just had tenants then

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Husband
Mr Tapp Pedigree


Birth: About 1781 , Devon, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1805 Teignmouth, Devon, England
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
Mary Pedigree


Birth: 1785 , Devon, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1805 Teignmouth, Devon, England
Death:
Burial:





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Children

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1. Mary Ann Tapp Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1827 Teignmouth, Devon, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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2. Susan Tapp Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1829 Teignmouth, Devon, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Thanks-I have all teh stuff on the Teignmouth ones-Its just the middle bit I need to join them all up! have started another thread to follow up on Susan Webber (Possibly Tapp) Thanks for all your help

Adding on!

I now have death certs for twins born to Susan Webber in 1862-Exeter-She is down as a milliner/bonnet maker and the twins died one at two months at Catherine Street (address of Susan as Susan Webber in 1861) and the other died at Smythen Street Exeter age 6 moths old. This one was registred by a George Tapp of Jews Court Smythen Street. Could someone please check 1861 for me to see more about him-I think its probably her brpother-a mason from Teignmouth,Devon-unfortunately the cert doesn't say his relationship top the child or any details about him!
Thanks to anyone who can help. Still trying to make sure this Susan is the one from Teignmouth and that Mary ANn and George are her brother and sister (I went to look at parish records this weeek but I couldn't find Susan-only found Mary Ann and George-they were very very faded and hard to read. I'm still not sure that George wasn't possibly a cousin or maybe another relative taken on by er parents

1866-Susan is living at Smythen Street with Mary ANn (Which it states as her sister) Thre was a newspapper report-trouble at the lodging house which was run by Mary Anns invalid sister Susan. (Posssibly never got over the birth of the twins?)-found it in the flying post!-same address as the death of baby 2-so at least that works-Just George I need to sort now!

1861 census ..... George is living at 7 Smythen Street with sister Mary Ann

Name: George Tapp
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Teignmouth

Civil parish: Exeter St George and St John
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Tapp 30 b Teignmouth Head unmarried occ Dressmaker
Rose Tapp 8 Dau b Exeter
Francis Tapp 2 Dau b Exeter
George Tapp 40 occ Mason

Thanks-so George is there-I just checked IGI but the one that someone found me earlier of Susan and Mary Ann is submitted so being wary-esp as I just found Extracted record of bapstisms for Mary Ann Tapp feb 1821 and George Aug 1816-both parents are John and Mary-

The other one someone found had a diffrerent date for Mary ANn and had Susan as well-so all a bit odd! Susan nearly 12 years younger than George as well.

What is odd is when George (Susan's son born 1859) married-he names his Father as George Tapp,a mason. Now the only one seems to be Susan's brother unless I am going mad-or do you think he may have just put that rather than put nothing at all on the certificate for Father.

From these census and certs though it does look like they were all very 'close' though doesn't it.

I think in 1881 Susan is in Coombe street on her own as Susan Tap but says she was born Exeter-then I think I have her death for 1883-as Susannah Tapp-Coombe street age 49 (Age out again but someone guessing?)-theres so many 'think' bits though its driving me potty!

Sorry to be a pain-Please could someone check the actual street name for Susan in 1871? Also I'm not sure if Mary ANn was still alive-I can't find a death for her though?

1871 census Susan's address is 3 Jews Court, Smythen St, Exeter

Thanks very much-they did live in each others pockets!

Thanks very much
Last one for tonight-I promise?coukld someone please check 1871 to see where George nad Mary ANn were-I think Rose died in 1862 Francis has no birth or death and seems to have vanished after 1861!

Thank you so much everyone for your help-A real breakthrough tonight-its all coming together nad making sense!

I can't find them ..... I've checked 7 Smythen St where they were living in the 1861 census but they are not there either!

Thanks-just found a death for George Tapp 1868-so thats him out the way! maybe Mary ANn married after he had gone! I'll have a look-thanks for checking anyway.

Just found Georges death cert (I had it a while ago but wasn't sure it was him-hadm't all the other info then)
died 14.9.1868 at Smythen Street Exeter. 9 months of Pthisis (I think that was TB but I'll have to check again)

Just got to sort Mary Ann now! Thanks soooo much for all the help this evening.