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Sentence Date 9 Mar 1848...................from earlier post on here

Sorry, Jane, but George is not related to you..............you can only follow the Taylor line beyond William

Elizabeth was baptised 17/11/1822. Father William, mother Elizabeth

1841 census records their birth years as 1776 and 1786 respectively, but…….remember that in 1841 ages of over-15’s were routinely rounded down to nearest 5.

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County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 21
Marriage date 14 Oct 1841
Groom forename George
Groom surname HERRING
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Miller
Groom abode Lound
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname TAYLOR
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Lound
Groom father forename George
Groom father surname HERRING
Groom father occupation Miller
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname TAYLOR
Bride father occupation Farmer
Witness1 James TAYLOR
Witness2 Harriet HERRING
Notes By banns
Transcribed by Karen Turner
Credit Karen Turner
File line number 45

Burials

County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 151
Burial date 29 Sep 1870
Burial person forename Elizabeth
Burial person surname HERRING
Person age 48
Burial person abode Lound
Transcribed by Karen Turner
Credit Karen Turner
File line number 950

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County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 136
Burial date 21 Sep 1869
Burial person forename James
Burial person surname HERRING
Person age 20
Burial person abode Lound
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Credit Karen Turner
File line number 935

Name Jane Alice Herring
Baptism Date 20 Mar 1861
Baptism Place Sutton-Cum-Lound, St. Bartholomew, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears Sutton Upon Lound
Mother Elizabeth Herring


Name James Herring
Birth Date 2 Aug
Baptism Date 28 Apr 1850
Baptism Place Sutton-Cum-Lound, St. Bartholomew, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears Sutton Cum Lound
Mother Elizabeth Herring
The above also records that Elizabeth's husband 'been transported some years'

Elizabeth c1844 would have been the only legitimate child born to Elizabeth

County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 30
Baptism date 20 Feb 1842
Person forename Jane
Person sex ?
Father forename George
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname HERRING
Person abode Lound
Father occupation Miller
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File line number 829

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County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 274
Birth date 02 Aug 1849
Baptism date 28 Apr 1850
Person forename James
Person sex ?
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname HERRING
Person abode Lound
Notes George Herring her husband been transported some years (in fact he was not sentenced until 1849)
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File line number 1073

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?? as no apparent birth reg.

County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 641
Baptism date 20 Mar 1861
Person forename Jane Ann
Person sex ?
Mother forename Elizabeth
Mother surname HERRING
Person abode Lound
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Credit Karen Turner
File line number 1441

William was baptised noting Mother Elizabeth's husband had been transported !!


County Nottinghamshire
Place (Links to more information) Sutton-cum-Lound
Church name (Links to more information) St Bartholomew
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 335
Birth date 23 Nov 1851
Baptism date 29 Feb 1852
Person forename William
Person sex ?
Mother forename Elizabeth
Mother surname HERRING
Person abode Lound
Notes Husband transported
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Credit Karen turner
File line number 1134

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search

Name Florence Herring
Gender Female
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 6 Jul 1908
Marriage Place Sheffield, St James, Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears Handsworth Woodhouse
Father William Herring
Spouse Ernest Henry Bown

William could not have been the son of George...check the birth year

His marriage to Florence's mother states 'not known' in the column for father's name

Name William Herring
Gender Male
Marriage Age Full Age
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 24 Nov 1873
Marriage Place Sutton-Cum-Lound, St. Bartholomew, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears Sutton Cum Lound
Spouse Mary Needham

HERRING, FLORENCE NEEDHAM
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 578


His birth...........illegitimate

HERRING, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 15 Page 528

Siblings.......

HERRING, CHARLES -
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 7

HERRING, GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 5

HERRING, ALICE -
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 5
HERRING, MARY -
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 5

HERRING, - -
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 8
HERRING, TOM -
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 7



Their mother died in 1870

HERRING, ELIZABETH 48
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 3

In 1871, Alice & Mary were in the Workhouse

Elizabeth had a few more children by 1861

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lound Common, Lound, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Herring Head Married Female 38 1823 Agricultural labourers wife Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Herring Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Servant Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
James Herring Son - Male 11 1850 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
William Herring Son - Male 8 1853 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Charles Herring Son - Male 6 1855 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
George Herring Son - Male 3 1858 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Alice Herring Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England

Which of her sons was the father of 'your' Florence?

George's wife and family in 1851.........no help with his whereabouts, obviously.

I doubt very much that you will be able to find any info about him, unless you obtain a copy of his death cert, which should have an address at least.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lound, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Herring Head Married Female 29 1822 Miller's wife Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Herring Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Herring Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Harriot Herring Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
James Herring Son - Male 1 1850 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Taylor Sister Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Lound, Nottinghamshire, England

I know George Herrung was my 2nd Great Grandfather. My paternal grandmother being Florence Herring. Does anyone know where George Herring lived in Perth after his pardon. Thanks Jane Allison

I know George Herrung was my 2nd Great Grandfather. My paternal grandmother being Florence Herring. Does anyone know where George Herring lived in Perth after his pardon. Thanks Jane Allison

Hi Cherilyn & Linda

A big thank you for all the news about John(George) Herring,who is definitely my ancestor.

Can you please find out what happened to him in Australia,where he lived until his death in 1891?

Cheers
Josephine

George died in 1891 aged 72 (reg 599). Can't see his wife or child, perhaps they did not join him. Possible she remarried in UK.

His description on Perth dps states he was single, with one child. He was a miller by trade, 5' 7.5", light brown sandy hair, blue eyes, oval face, fair skin, sandy whiskers.

Hashemy was the 2nd of 37 shiploads of male convicts to WA.

I assume that this is him in 1841 with his parents (the age is rounded down), he is a miller

Name: George Hening
[George Herring]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Clareborough
Hundred: Bassetlaw (North Clay Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Clareborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hening 45
Mary Hening 40
George Hening 21
Elizabeth Hening 15
Viney Hening 13
John Hening 11
Martin Hening 9
Caroline Hening 7
James Hening 5
Edward Hening 3
Ann Hening 2 Mo

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx42

is the WA bmd search page



From http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/con-wa1.html
Herring George 121 14y(term) 32 (age Nottingham 09 03 1848 Burglary

from http://www.fremantleprison.com.au/Pages/Convict.aspx

Convict Database
HERRING, John
Convict No 121
Ship Name Hashemy
Ship Arrival Date 25 Oct 1850
Alias aka George
Birth Date 21 Jan 1818
Marital Status Mar 1 chd
Occupation miller
Literacy lit
Religion C/E
Sentence Date 9 Mar 1848
Sentence Province Nottingham
Sentence Country England
Length of Sentence 14yrs
Crime burglary
Ticket of Leave Date 26 Jul 1851
Conditional Pardon Date 13 May 1854

I'm assuming this is the convict record you are referring to in which George was sentenced to 14 years?

Name: George Herring
Vessel: Hashemy
Convicted Date: 9 Mar 1848
Voyage Date: 19 Jul 1850
Colony: Western Australia
Piece: HO 11/16
Place of Conviction: Nottingham
County of Conviction: Nottingham

If you google western australia bmd, there is a site with helpers, for a fee of course!

Regards Linda :)

Can anyone help me find out what happened to a George Herring ,who travelled on the "Hashemy", which arrived in Australia on 25/10/1850 age 32?

Josephine