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suggest you send for birth certificate of Ralph (on 1901 census) to see who father is stated to be -

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Povey Ralph Stoke T. 6b 295

Here's Margaret with children in 1901. Original is Povey. Still stating she is married (not a widow)

1901 England Census
Name: Magaret Prey
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Fenton
Ecclesiastical parish: Fenton Christchurch
Town: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age

Magaret Prey 44
Charles Prey 15
James Percy 10
Ralph Percy 7
William H Percy 5

(these are lodgers)
William Clarke 40
John Rowley 15
John Ward 10

Here's William, Charles' brother, in 1901. Original does read Povey.

1901 England Census
Name: William Pooey
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Whittington
Ecclesiastical parish: Whittington
Town: Whittington
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 38/64 Regimental Depot
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
George Priest 21
Benjamin Horner 19
Francis Bates 18
Harry Carter 19
Charles Davis 20
Thomas Kerr 18
Bartley Wilson 25
George Jones 20
Harry Singleton 24
Albert Mayne 20
Edward Burton 17
Stephen Wakeman 17
William Crutchley 18
John Coxon 23
William Lees 17
Lake Kennedy 17
John Hawkins 17
John Mason 25
John Borevick 26
Charles Lewis 27
Joseph Fenn 25
Ernest Blakeman 24
Thomas Colgan 23
William Bishop 20
Frederick Cannon 23
John Drew 26
Edward Farwell 22
Richard Mixon 33
Henry Bracey 21
Herbert Hoggins 19
Wiliam Burns 30
Frederick Stephens 29
George Leek 24
William Berch 25
George Bayliss 20
Henry Isaacs 20
Thomas Amos 18
William Barnes 18
Edward Bailey 22
John Bowles 36
Thomas Bratt 20
Arthur Bartram 18
Thomas Bostock 19
Mark Brooks 28
Edward Cater 19
Edgar Cox 18
John Duffield 18
William Davies 18
Charles Davies 27
John Godfrey 18
George Harper 19
Thomas Jones 19
Ernest King 20
George Lathbury 18
Henry Roberts 25
James Reeds 18
George Rivett 18
Samuel Farton 21
John Foot 22
George Wedge 20
John Carless 18
Ernest Stokes 18
George Frees 19
Arthur Boscott 17
Clarence Barkes 18
Thomas McNamara 17
Robert Walker 19
George Simmonds 19
Joseph Addison 20
John Gill 18
John Kennedy 17
William Alsop 19
Albert Sambrook 21
Walter Withington 19
Joseph Battison 19
Thomas Ball 17
William Haines 18
Walter Crisp 18
Ernest Powell 18
George Cooper 17
John Davies 18
Benjamin Buckey 18
William Lane 18
Reuben Blunt 17
William Harper 17
Thomas Duggan 39
William Kent 19
Samuel Epley 19
********************************William Pooey 18
Bertram Edge 18
Edward Plant 19
Thomas Rockey 17
George Caton 21
John Daniels 22
John Tudor 21
Samuel Eaton 19
Joseph Williams 17
Arthur Wilson 18
Luke Wilkinson 17
George Wood 17

This is the 38/64 Regimental depot.

on the other hand the Cheshire death would fit this Thomas as Hatton is in Runcorn reg district

1881
Thomas POVEY Head M Male 26 Hatton, Cheshire, England Ag Lab
Caroline POVEY Wife M Female 27 Over, Cheshire, England Housewife
Charles A. POVEY Son Male 4 Hatton, Cheshire, England Scholar
Frances M. POVEY Daur Female 2 Hatton, Cheshire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Hatton Village Cottage
Census Place Hatton In Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341842
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3513 / 12
Page Number 17

on the 1891 census Margaret and children are one household. You need to view the original to see what a mess it is!

this one fits the dates given...??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Thomas Povey
Name: Thomas Povey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 31
District: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 129

you say Thomas died in the 1880's. Have you got the certificate . Can you say just when he did die please as I can't find the registration

Here's Margaret and children in 1891 - mistranscribed with the Porter family. On original she is living next door. States she is married, not a widow, but no sign of Thomas.

1891 England Census
Name: Margaret Porter
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Porter 23
Kate Porter 19
Margaret Porter 6/12
William H Shufflebotham 21
James F Shufflebotham 16
***********************Margaret Porter 34
********************** Esther J Porter 15
***********************Sarah A Porter 13
***********************William Porter 7
***********************Charles Porter 5
Marcy Scragg 21
Helena Scragg 8/12
William Clarke 28
Albert Porter 20


NB READS POVEY ON ORIGINAL, NOT PORTER

Exactly who did father Charles!! my direct line to margaret who was formely powell thx Charles birth and marriage cert states father unknown think margaret just gave him and the ones after thomas s death the Povey family name

1861 England Census
Name: Margaret Powell
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Fenton
Town: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Powell 41
Bridget Powell 33
Samuel Powell 15
Jane Powell 9
James Powell 7
**********************Margaret Powell 6
William Powell 2
Margaret Skanley 54

??????

1881 England Census about Margaret Pover
Name: Margaret Pover
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Challinors Sqr
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: No Trade

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Pover 25
Margaret Pover 24
Esther J. Pover 5
Sarah A. Pover 4
Susannah Pover

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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Povey Thomas Stoke On Trent 6b 240
Powell Margaret Stoke On Trent 6b 240

If Thomas died not long after marriage, who fathered the 8 children?

Hi
I can only find my relative Margaret Povey b 1855 ish {married name} on the 1911 census she was born in fenton staffordshire She Married Thomas Povey in the mid 1870s but he died not to long after wards in the 1880s.
Some of margarets children are

Charles povey 1885
James povey 1891
william henry povey 1896

I have searched loads for margaret on the 1871/81/91 and 1901 census s but just can t find her or any of her children 8 in total

Please help thx loads