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Hidden Holmes?

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 18:00

Just in case:

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
Tubb Francis Henry Scarbro' 9d 409 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
TUBB Bessie Louisa Scarbro' 9d 424 Scan available - click to view

Can't see the others though, even on phonetic search.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Jul 2009 17:49

Births Mar 1884
Tubb Jenny Louisa Scarbro' 9d 372

Don't see a likely CBS,though!

I was getting frustrated trying to find these people,but it seemed probable that they were still in Scarbro,so went looking for any Thomas of the right age and birthplace.

Maureen

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 17:37

Thanks to Maureen we now have:

Marriages Dec 1883

Holmes Mary Ann Scarbro' 9d 755 Scan available - click to view

Tubb Frederick Ferrandon Scarbro' 9d 755

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 17:35

Well done Maureen! I could have tried all year and not found this.
What did you do?
Jan

Samantha

Samantha Report 3 Jul 2009 17:34

I think the C B S Tubb is Charlotte, Mary 'Tubb' nee Holmes' daughter.

Samantha

Samantha Report 3 Jul 2009 17:29

Wow, with regards to the last one, that gives a few more family members - the name 'Tubb' is, in 1901, 'Tubt', although other searches for this name and the people it belongs to have been fruitless. Mary Ann Holmes, the daughter of Charlotte and Thomas, marries someone with this name, or similiar sounding/spelling, although I only had three children for her, Fanny, Charlotte and Dora, who appear in the 1901 cenus. So i now have a J L and a C B S to play with!!

Kind Regards
Samm

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Jul 2009 17:20

These initials are going to be the death of us!
1891 Ancestry
Name: Thomas Hohne
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: C H
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Bullingbrook, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:11 York Place

Occupation:Lodging House keeper
Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hohne 65
C H Hohne 54
C Hohne 25
S Hohne 23
T Hohne 22
J L Tubb 7
C B S Tubb 4

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3966; Folio 105; Page 16

Maureen

Samantha

Samantha Report 3 Jul 2009 17:13

I really can't express how grateful I am for all your help and information, the picture is becoming more and more complete now of this family. Particularly the possible remarriage of Thomas Holmes, that's a new lead I can follow to find if it bears any fruit. Once more, thanks so so much for your time and efforts

Kind Rgards
Samm

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:53

Just as a bit of light relief after the 1891 census block, here is Charlotte's birth:

CHARLOTTE HANNAH HUMBLE Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
17 APR 1833 Cottingham, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HUMBLE Family
Mother: MARY

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:48

Folks, the real stumbling block is 1891. Can't find any trace of Charlotte at all.
Anyone else any inspiration?
Jan

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 3 Jul 2009 16:42

hi possible
1871 census

Name Charlotte H Holmes
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household WIFE
Occupation COACH MANS WIFE
Address 7 Alina Parade
District Scarborough, Scarborough
Parish
Administrative County Yorkshire
Birth Place Cottingham
Birth County YORKSHIRE
in house
charlotte wife 38
jane 13
mary ann 12
henry 10
robert 8
charlotte 6
RG 10 / 4815

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jul 2009 16:39

Is this Thomas marrying again..it would have been unusual but not unheard of!



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Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Hay Louisa Marianne Scarbro' 9d 699
Holmes Thomas Scarbro' 9d 699
Stephenson Ellen Scarbro' 9d 699
WINTER Amos Scarbro' 9d 699

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:32

No problem at all. The info you gave was perfect, wish everyone did the same! It's been fun.

I wonder if this could be her daughter in 1891?

1891 England Census
about Charlotte Holmes
Name: Charlotte Holmes
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough

Elizth H Oliver 31
Charlotte Holmes 13
Hannah Ainsworth 13

Samantha

Samantha Report 3 Jul 2009 16:23

Thankyou so so SO much for taking the time to help, your information has been wonderful and is greatly appreciated.

Kindest Regards
Samm

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:20

Looks like it is Old Bolingbroke - googled it! It's in Lincs, looks rather charming. Historical too.
Jan



brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:15

Aha!
Definitely them. Original has "T. Holmes" birthplace as Old Bollingbath or something like that!
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Jul 2009 16:08

This is kind of weird, but could it be them?

1881 England Census
about C. H. Holmes
Name: C. H. Holmes
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: T.
Gender: Female
Where born: Collingham, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 11 York Place
Condition as to marriage: Married

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Occupation: Lodging Housekeeper

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
T. Holmes 57
C. H. Holmes 48
M. A. Holmes 22
C. Holmes 16
S. Holmes 14
T. Holmes 12

Jan


Samantha

Samantha Report 3 Jul 2009 15:54

Hi, I'm trying to trace a Holmes family. They began as Thomas Holmes and Charlotte Humble, born 1824 and 1833 respectively, in 'Old Bolingbroke'? and Cottingham, also respectively. They married in 1856 in Hull; I have found them in the 1861 census living together with their three eldest children, Jane, Mary Ann and Henry, and I have found Charlotte in 1871 living with these three plus another four. However I can find absolutely no trace of them, or of their children, until 1901 where I found Charlotte, widowed, living with her daughter Mary 'Tubt', grandchildren Fanny, Charlotte and Dora 'Tubt', and three of her own children. Can anyone tell me why they wouldn't appear in the other missing census'?

Kindest regards
Samantha