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Again Margaret and all, Thanks . I'm going to give the email ago Thanks so much for your help x

Sorry Margaret i took off to watch F1! Just checked messages.
Do i just email the local archives office where he was born and ask if a claim for maintenance was made and do they keep copies of the bastardy orders from the year 1862?
Sorry about the late reply. Thanks

Hi
A mixture of Ancestry and the baptism on Family search site
Shirley

Gosh! Where did you get that from so quick!

Thanks Shirley, At least i have somewhere to try i've not moved forward, not known where to go with George since almost day one. Thank You so much for your time x

this could be his baptism but the names of his parents dont gel???
plus baptism is a bit late as he was born in Feb,
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GEO ASHWORTH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 SEP 1862 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBT ASHWORTH Family
Mother: JANE

Unless this is another family!

You would need the Parish records for his baptism.
As his cert doesnt give a dad then the chances of finding one is a bit remote ,unless you are lucky and its stated on his baptism.

I didn't know the vicar/ Register office? would hold more info. Maybe i could contact someone from Salford register office? Do you know if they would tell me that info? Sorry to be a pain!

Yes i have got his birth cert just naming his mum

As you know his actual birth date ,have you got his birth cert.
Seems he was illigitimate so his baptism record may name his dad,some vicars would name a father on the records.

the 1871 census is my George's, grandma Jane b1820 not mother Jane b1845. This is why my head goes in a muddle with them having same names. lol

Probably my suspicious mind but i think it was in 1861 his mum Jane and family lived on same street as "The Steels"
i can't think why she gave him the surname Steel and not acknowledge the father?

Looks like Thomas died and mum jane remarried
1871 census
Name: Joseph Ashworth
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:63 Silk Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Simm 49 occ Draper
Jane Simm 51
James Simm 20
Clara Simm 11
Alfred Simm 9
Thomas Ashworth 17
Joseph Ashworth 12




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4019; Folio: 122; Page: 11; GSU roll: 846319.

No Jane b 1845 with them though

Sorry the 1891 census states his mum is Ann? His sir name is mis-spelt as Stell.

AHH was she a single mum when George was born
1861 census
Name: Jane Ashworth
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:9 John Dalton Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Ashworth 44
Jane Ashworth 41
Mary E Ashworth 20
Jane Ashworth 16
William Ashworth 14
Elizabeth Ashworth 11
Emma Ashworth 9
Thomas Ashworth 6
Joseph Ashworth 2


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2910; Folio: 57; Page: 11; GSU roll: 543048

The only census i haven't got is 1871 for him. I have looked for ages for it but can't seem to come across it.

Hi No his marriage cert left blank for his father.

Have you looked for the family on the l87l census
Liz

doesnt his marriage cert name his dad?

Hi I'm looking for any info of the father of George Steel/Ashworth b 24 Feb1862 Salford Lancs, mother Jane Ashworth b 1845 Salford.
1881 census residence vessels royal navy .
1891 married as George Steel Ashworth in Barnsley Yorkshire.
1895 birth cert of daughter, my gran, confirms his marriage, wife and occupation