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Barry
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1 Aug 2012 12:01 |
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ChristinaS/Thelma,
You are right. I've now found page 2-silly me!
Thanks for marrage details of my ggrandfather and his siblings and other info. Appears from fathers occupation that 'my' Annie must have married Richard Joseph Wenham .Had wrong Maria for years-thanks again.
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27 Jul 2012 11:33 |
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ChristinaS I guess that Barry has not found page two.
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27 Jul 2012 11:19 |
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You need to check for fathers' occupation on all of Annie's siblings marriages.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Arthur Pearson Name: Arthur Pearson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Spouse Name: Sophia Benfell Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Jun 1884 Parish: Clapham St Paul Borough: Lambeth Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer} Spouse Father Name: Edward Benfell Register Type: Parish Register =================================== London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Walter Pearson Name: Walter Pearson Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Spouse Name: Susanna Sheppard Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1893 Parish: Clapham Park All Saints Borough: Lambeth Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer Spouse Father Name: Benjamin Sheppard Register Type: Parish Register =======================================
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Louisa Pearson Name: Louisa Pearson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Spouse Name: Frederick Thomas Aldrich Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Jun 1892 Parish: Clapham Park All Saints Borough: Lambeth Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer) Spouse Father Name: William John Aldrich Register Type: Parish Register ====================================
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Henry Pearson Name: William Henry Pearson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Spouse Name: Mary Ann Carlen Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Jul 1886 Parish: Clapham Park All Saints Borough: Lambeth Father Name: William Pearson (builder) Spouse Father Name: John Carlen Register Type: Parish Register
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ChristinaS
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27 Jul 2012 09:41 |
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Just repeating the above as Barry PMed to say he wasn't able to pick the message up.
The Annie Maria Pearson who married in 1881 has her father's occupation as bricklayer.
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ChristinaS
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26 Jul 2012 17:09 |
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The Annie Maria Pearson who married in 1881 has her father's occupation as bricklayer.
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Thelma
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26 Jul 2012 11:59 |
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I believe this is the Annie who married William Okines. Check the occupation of her father. ========================================= London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Arthur Okines Name: William Arthur Okines Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Spouse Name: Annie Pearson Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 May 1880 Parish: Battersea St Philip Borough: Wandsworth Father Name: Frances Okines Spouse Father Name: William Pearson (stone mason Register Type: Parish Register =================================== 1871 England Census Name: Annie Pearson Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Pearson Mother's Name: Mary Pearson Gender: Female Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 668 Folio: 105 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 49 <<<stonemason born Bradford Yorkshire Mary Pearson 50 Frederick Thos Pearson 20 Ernest Pearson 14 Annie Pearson 11 James Price Pearson 9 ==========================
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about William Pearson Name: William Pearson Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral) Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1822 Father's Name: William Pearson Mother's Name: Esther Pearson
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Barry
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24 Jul 2012 17:54 |
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Christina-thanks,
Arthur is my ggrandfather-the others his siblings. I agree they were born in Clapham (sub district of Wandsworth). William Okines and Annie's Ggranddaughter told me they were married 17May1880 at St Philip Battersea-William 27 and Annie 20. In 1881 they were living at 15 London St. , Southwark-1891 Battersea.
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ChristinaS
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24 Jul 2012 07:12 |
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Barry,
Are you quite certain that Annie married in 1880. Only her siblings William, Arthur, Walter and Louisa all married in Clapham.
There is an Annie Maria Pearson marrying in Clapham in December 1881 to Richard Joseph Wenham. This Annie gives her age as 21, which would be correct for your Annie.
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Barry
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23 Jul 2012 23:02 |
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Thanks. Sydenham was a sub-district of Lewishem..If she was 8 months at 1861 census she must have been born Sept 1860, but when married May 1880 she was shown as 20 ( when she would have been 19)..Its strange as all else seems to fit.
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22 Jul 2012 23:17 |
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The 1861 Census for England was taken on the night of 7 April 1861. All responses were to reflect the individual's status as of 7 April 1861 for all individuals who had spent the night in the house.
Have you eliminated this birth?
Births Sep 1860 PEARSON Anne Maria Lewisham 1d 66_
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Barry
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22 Jul 2012 22:19 |
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From above I have found out that William and Maria were married at Chingford 1859 and were living at Sydenham in 1861. Their daughter Annie was 8 months. In 1871 it shows Annie age 10 born in Sydenham , Surrey. (the rest of the family were born in Shoreditch , which is correct). Yet from another souce I have Annie baptised 2/9/1860 at Chingford. She was 20 when she married 17/5/1880 -so she must have been born before 17/5/1860. Please does anyone know the date of the 1861 Census to prove if Annie was 10 or would she have been 11.
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Barry
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10 Jul 2012 12:47 |
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Thanks . 1861. Annie 8 months fits with my info. As Mary Ann was a Castleman, Maria Castleman must be the correct Maria. What threw me was birth cert 20/11/62 with address 17 Lucan Place and baptism birth date 27/11/62 with address 17 Newton Place.(as at 1/3/ 1863-date of baptism). I've another Maria in my tree for more than 5 years!! 1881 Mona is an error.
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ChristinaS
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6 Jul 2012 15:30 |
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Although Maria Castleman was born Islington in 1837, she was baptised in Lambeth February 1841. At the same time as her sister, Mary Ann, who was born 1841 in Lambeth.
The nieces living with them on the 1861 census are the children of Mary Ann. She married a John Jones. By 1871 John Jones has died, and Mary Ann has moved in with Henry Hitchen, with her 2 daughters.
The date of birth shown on a baptism record is only the date which is given by one of the parents at the time. I'm not saying it was the father who answered this question but .........
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6 Jul 2012 12:59 |
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1911, married 52 years:
Name: Maria Pearson Age in 1911: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 77 Cornwall Road, Brixton Hill, London S W Marital Status: Married Years Married: 52 Estimated Marriage Year: 1859 Occupation: OLD AGE PENSIONER Registration district: Lambeth Registration District Number: 25 Sub-registration district: Norwood ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 2106 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 73 Maria Pearson 72 Agrees with this marriage:
Marriages Sep 1859 Castleman Maria Epping 4a 55 Francis Emma Epping 4a 55 Massey George Frederic Epping 4a 55 Pearson William Epping 4a 55
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Potty
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6 Jul 2012 12:55 |
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The Annie in the 1861 is 8 months not 8 years and was born in Lewisham.
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Thelma
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6 Jul 2012 12:53 |
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England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Maria Castleman Name: Maria Castleman Gender: Female Father's Name: William Castleman Spouse's Name: William Pearson Spouse's Father's Name: William Pearson Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1859 Marriage Place: Chingford, Essex, England
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6 Jul 2012 12:45 |
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??? 1861 England Census about Maria Pearson Name: Maria Pearson Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Pearson Gender: Female Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Lewisham Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill Christchurch County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Sydenham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 227 Piece: 417 Folio: 95 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 23 Maria Pearson 22 Annie Pearson 8 months Annie Jones 2 Emma Jones 8 Months William Castleman 55 <<<<<<< father
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AnnCardiff
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6 Jul 2012 12:44 |
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William Henry Pearson England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 27 Nov 1862 christening: 01 Feb 1863 SAINT LEONARDS,?SHOREDITCH,?LONDON,?ENGLAND parents: William Pearson,? Maria
name: William Henry Pearson gender: Male baptism/christening date: 01 Feb 1863 baptism/christening place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND birth date: 27 Nov 1862 father's name: William Pearson mother's name: Maria indexing project (batch) number: C04080-9 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 396244, 396245, 396246
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6 Jul 2012 12:36 |
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From the 1881, it looks as if Maria had a second name (it is Marie or Maria on the image):
Name: William H. Pearson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Pearson Mother's name: Mona P. Pearson Gender: Male Where born: Hoxton, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: No 3 Hope Terrace Cornwall Road Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Assistant Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 614 Folio: 118 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 43 Mona P. Pearson 43 William H. Pearson 19 Arthur Pearson 17 Walter Pearson 14 Louisa Pearson 12 George Pearson 11 Eleanor Pearson 8 Earnest Pearson 6 Alfred Pearson 2 Charles L. Pearson
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6 Jul 2012 12:32 |
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William Pearson England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 01 Jul 1838 ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,?STEPNEY,?LONDON,?ENGLAND parents: James Pearson,? Ann
name: William Pearson gender: Male baptism/christening date: 01 Jul 1838 baptism/christening place: ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND father's name: James Pearson mother's name: Ann indexing project (batch) number: C00629-9 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 94697, 94698
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