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Seems we can find everything but that marriage!!
1841

Name: John Morton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Name: Keturah Morton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England



Household Members:
Name Age
John Morton 55
John Morton 25
James Morton 27
Keturah Morton 55
Keturah Morton 18
if you have ancestry ther are a few Morton's on this page

I'll keep it in my notes.
I've searched through all possible marriages with name variants and still can't find it. It's a bit strange why the couple wouldn't marry though?

I know you need the marriage ,have you got this put to one side in case you find a marriage and it fits!!!
WILLIAM MORTON
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
25 OCT 1818 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England


Parents:
Father: JOHN MORTON
Family
Mother: KETURAH

I've also found this one before. This is a different William and Hannah. I found them on a later census when my William was still in Sheffield. No matter what i try it's always a dead end.
Sometimes genealogy can be very frustating!!!! :S

??1841
Name: William Morton
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Barlborough
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Carburton



Name: Hannah Morton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Barlborough
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Name: Ellen Wiadle
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Barlborough
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire


doesn't show on the transcription page but i think this one is in the same household
Name: Thomas Morton
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Barlborough
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Frederick was actually the illegitimate son of Selina who was on the 1841 census with him. I found his baptism while trawling through Norton's baptism records.
It's very strange why there doesn't seem to be no marriage for William. I know he was James uncle so the marriage certifcate would give me the father of both William and James's mother Mary.

Thanks again

Derek , i am more awake now looking at the 2 1841 census i posted note they both have a "Pepper" living with them?
I then looked for mother Mary (1791) in 1851 and wonder about this
remembering that ages were rounded in 1841
Name: Mary Morton
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hemsworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James

Name: Frederick Morton
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Norton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
County/Island: Derbyshire

sus about Gertrude Copley
Name: Gertrude Copley
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Visitor
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

??could grandson Frederick be Jos's son in 1841

Yes i think this could possibly be James in 1841. The only problem i have with this is that on the 1841 census William was a cutler but on every other census he was a gardener. I suppose once again the marriage certificate would help me with that.
I'm starting to think the couple never married.
:S

1841 for info then
Mary Morton abt 1791 Derbyshire, England Norton, Derbyshire
William Morton abt 1816 Norton, Derbyshire
Selima Pepper abt 1838 Norton, Derbyshire
James Morton abt 1839 Norton, Derbyshire
Selina Morton abt 1811

No
Basically James Morton was born to Mary Morton (no father) on Cupola Street in Sheffield in 1839. Mary is at Cupola Street on the 1841 census but James is not. There is a James Morton living in Norton with a Mary Morton (possible grandmother) and a William Morton (who could be the uncle who's marriage i'm after).
Because i don't know anything about James mother, his uncle who James lives with in 1851 could be the answer to who Mary's parents are. Thats why i need to find the marriage of William and Hannah.

Thanks :S

?is this James in 1841
Name: Jas Morton
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Sheffield North



Household Members:
Name Age
Jos Morton 34
Ellen Morton 34
Julia Morton 12
Mark Morton 8
John Morton 8
Jas Morton 3
Frederick Morton 1
Wm Pepper 15

Just thought i'd bring this thread up to the top again. Hopefully someone may be able to knock down this huge brickwall! :S

Thanks for taking the time to look the info up. I already have Hannah Bolers baptism from Brampton to William and Elizabeth. It is William Morton's side i am more concerned about because i am a descendant of James Morton (Williams nephew). James was an illegitimate child to Mary Ann Morton from Sheffield who is obviously Williams sister. I have not been able to find William and Mary's parents but if i found the marriage for William and Hannah it would hopefully show Williams father.

Thanks again

This could be Elizabeth mistranscribed;

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Boles
Name: Elizabeth Boles
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Brampton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Brampton
Ecclesiastical parish: Brampton St Thomas
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 12f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
William Boles 64 Farmer of 40 Acres
Elizabeth Boles 61
Joseph Boles 10 Grandson


Image states BOLER


Living next door is;

William Boler, Head, unmarried, 27
Stephen Boler, Head, unmarried, 17



With any luck we maybe able to trace some baptisms and see if Ann/Hannah is with this family.


Dee x

In 1861 Ann/Hannah is with her mother like you stated, she was in Chesterfield, this could be a possible for Ann/Hannah in 1841;

1841 England Census
about Hannah Boler
Name: Hannah Boler
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Chesterfield
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hervey Brown 25
Josh Ulley 15
Hannah Boler 20
Ann Revill 15

Her mother could have remarried, so that need not be Hannah's maiden name.

Gwyn

Hi Derek,

Just for dates and ref point;

1851 England Census
about James Morton
Name: James Morton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Barnsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Barnsley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Barnsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Morton 34
Anne Morton 30
James Morton 13


Dee x

Hi

I am having problems trying to find the marriage of William Morton to Hannah (or Ann) Boler.
On the 1851 census they are living in Barnsley in Yorkshire with their nephew James Morton.
William is from Sheffield and Hannah is from a place called North Leads in Brampton Derbyshire. The reason i know her surname is because she was visiting her mother on the 1861 census.
I cannot find them on the 1841 census. They could have married anytime between 1837 and 1851.

Any help much appreciated
Thankyou
Derek