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19 Aug 2009 10:54 |
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A possible death/marriage as I cant find one in NY
Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frankton Edward Atherstone 6d 819 Parker Eliza Ann Atherstone 6d 819
Deaths Jun 1935 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frankton Edward 81 Nuneaton 6d 683
Ginny x
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19 Aug 2009 10:32 |
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Roy
there is a tree on Ancestry with what looks like your family, these are the family members
Family Members Parents William Frankton 1830 – 1901 Ann Clarke 1826 – 1901 Show siblings of Edwin Frankton 1853 Elizabeth Frankton 1850 -1851 Alfred Frankton - d1907 Sarah Ann Frankton 1865 Mabel Marion Frankton –
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The wife of Alfred is Eliza Kenney but I think you have ruled that one out..not sure why?
The tree also shows Edwin arriving back to the UK 1902. If hes like my family they were back and forwards all the time!
Ginny x
PS Cant find a marrige for Edwin or a death in the states
PPS I dont get the Edwin/Edward? Births Jun 1854 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FRANKTON Edward Rugby 6d 446
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19 Aug 2009 09:56 |
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1900 United States Federal Census about Mary Frankton Name: Mary Frankton Home in 1900: Newark Ward 6, Essex, New Jersey Age: 35 Birth Date: May 1865 Birthplace: New York Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Wife Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Mother: number of living children: 0 Mother: How many children: 0 Spouse's Name: Edward Marriage year: 1896 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 4 Residence : Newark City, Essex, New Jersey Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Frankton 47 ..........................on the actual census it states hes English Mary Frankton 35 Blanch Davis 19 Ginny x
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19 Aug 2009 00:13 |
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Wow !!!!!!!!..this is all amazing to me !!......thankyou so much for this info. Choccy,i would never have found this(or have even known where to look). Just goes to show...posted for one missing Frankton & ended-up finding his equally "missing" older brother !!!!!!!!!...........Must also thank Ginny for all earlier input on this post & the extra info. "post Choccy"... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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18 Aug 2009 23:11 |
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1910 United States Federal Census Name: Edwin T Frankton Age in 1910: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Spouse's Name: Mary E Home in 1910: South Orange, Essex, New Jersey Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1895 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin T Frankton 56 Mary E Frankton 46 William Lipman 64
Mary's details -
1910 United States Federal Census Name: Mary E Frankton Age in 1910: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Wife Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Ireland Spouse's Name: Edwin T Home in 1910: South Orange, Essex, New Jersey Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin T Frankton 56 Mary E Frankton 46 William Lipman 64
Year of immigration on original is 1875 - not 1895
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18 Aug 2009 23:08 |
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1920 USA census
1920 United States Federal Census Name: Edwin Frankton [Edwin Tranloton] Home in 1920: South Orange, Essex, New Jersey Age: 67 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Year of Immigration: 1872 Image: 335 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Frankton 67 Mary Frankton 55
(on original Mary is said to be Edwin's wife)
1920 United States Federal Census Name: Mary Frankton [Mary Tranloton] Home in 1920: South Orange, Essex, New Jersey Age: 55 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Sister Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Ireland Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Image: 335 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Frankton 67 Mary Frankton 55
(not sure about reference to sister of head of house. Can't see a head of house other than Edwin, but definitely states she is his wife)
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18 Aug 2009 22:56 |
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Have recd a PM from Roy, so am going to post all I can find, as he didn't know about Edwin and him going to America (not for sure anyway).
Here goes - I think this is when he first went. Appears to be on his own.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ed Frankton Arrival Date: 28 Jul 1873 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Age: 21 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: England Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: English Ship Name: Adriatic Search Ship Database: View the Adriatic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 15 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_379 List Number: 779 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States
Source Citation: Year: 1873; Arrival: New York , United States; Microfilm serial: M237; Microfilm roll: M237_379; Line: 15; List number: 779.
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18 Aug 2009 18:12 |
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This is thanks to Choccy for the prompt
1920 United States Federal Census about Edwin Frankton Name: Edwin Frankton [Edwin Tranloton] Home in 1920: South Orange, Essex, New Jersey Age: 67 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Year of Immigration: 1872 Image: 335 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Frankton 67 Mary Frankton 55 Ginny x
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18 Aug 2009 18:07 |
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Well Im glad youve found someone Choccy, its saved me going through the indexes - thanks
Ginny x
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18 Aug 2009 17:58 |
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don't get excited - I haven't found Alfred! I expect you already have this -
his brother, Edwin, on 1880 USA census -
1880 United States Federal Census Name: Edwin Franklin Home in 1880: New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of Household: Something other than a direct relationship (Other) Father's birthplace: England Mother's birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Bellow Maker Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane: View image Household Members: Name Age James Fritzgerald 43 Emma Fritzgerald 36 James Fritzgerald 18 Ellen E. Fritzgerald 17 Margaret Haines 38 Ellen Doyle 23 Bridget Martin 28 Ellen Farrell 23 Helen Osullivan 28 Jessie Brewster 23 Agnes Arthur 21 Henry Harrison 19 William Thompson 24 ************************Edwin Franklin 25 Robert M Kline 16 Mary M Kline 14 William Gillispie 19 William Branighan 22 Robert Jones 35 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York; Roll T9_871; Family History Film: 1254871; Page: 104.2000; Enumeration District: 109; Image: 0705.
(On the 1871 UK census he was an apprentice bellow maker with his brother Alfred). On the 1900 USA census states he went to New York in 1875.
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18 Aug 2009 14:35 |
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mind you, he does not show-up on 1881 or 1911 census',i don't have access to 1901--but i bet he's absent on there aswell...so my thinking is still that he has died between 1871--1881
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18 Aug 2009 14:23 |
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He could well have. I looked for a relative for ages and hadnt thought looking past a certain date..he died in 1912 age 97!
Youve no imagination Roy !!!!!!!!!!
Ginny x
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18 Aug 2009 14:18 |
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yikes !!!!!!!!!!!!...i am thinking that maybe he died after 1871 census & just has not been transcribed onto BMD yet...thanks for help
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18 Aug 2009 14:16 |
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Ive had a look on emmigration and cant find anything....stowaway? It did happen!
Ginny x
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18 Aug 2009 14:13 |
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this could be true Ginny...but Frankton not a very common name in UK,thought he might show-up somewhere( perhap's he emigrated ? ).....this death of other Alfred (in my posting,above)
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18 Aug 2009 14:10 |
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Roy
If you or anyone else cant find a marriage for him it could be that he didnt marry and so could be anyone of the Alfreds with any women on the census's!
Ginny x
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18 Aug 2009 13:57 |
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thanks "hoping" no, not him...looks like other Alfred with wife Eliza mistranscribed as " Elina"..
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18 Aug 2009 13:55 |
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This is probably not him then??!!! The problem is apart from the birth record there's nothing coming up with solihull:
Name: Alfred Frankton Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elina Gender: Male Where born: Church Lawford, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Church Lawford Ecclesiastical parish: Church Lawford Town: Church Lawford County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: lawyer Registration district: Rugby Sub-registration district: Rugby ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Frankton 33 Elina Frankton 33 Elizabeth A Frankton 13 Alice Frankton 9 Fred Frankton 5 Rosa Frankton 4 Ellen Frankton 1
Regards Linda :)
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18 Aug 2009 13:46 |
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Can anyone trace lost Alfred Frankton ( birth ref. Solihull DEC.1858 6d 409)...?.Son of William& Ann Frankton of Rugby & later Solihull area's of Warwickshire.Can't find marriage or death for him..Please note: he is NOT the Alfred born Rugby 1857 who married Eliza Kenney in 1877 & died 1907 age50.He is also NOT mistranscribed as John Alfred Frankton ,born Coventry 1860,married1881 & died 1891,age 30...I am at a loss now..can any "detectives" out there "find" him for me ?..Thanks !! ( he is with parents on 1861 & 1871 census' )
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