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For my mum's friend Sarah Harvey, parents are on cert,

Emma Harvey age 22, living at 4a Plevna street, New Beckham
Age 22, father is Thomas Harvey a Coal Porter

And she married

Claude James age 32, a Seaman, living at 25 Creighton? avenue. Father is William James who is a Engine Driver.

Married in august 1922 in East Ham.

Also on the cert it did say surname was Harley but has been crossed out and numbered, does that mean a genuine mistake?

How can i find out any more about Emma's mum?

If the name was crossed out and numbered then it was just a mistake made by the registrar. They have to number each mistake they make and is logged somewhere separately, but the name will be what he has changed it to.

Kath. x

There is this birth which could be a possible:-

Name: Emma Harvey
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 9

Kath. x

Have searched 1911 for Thomas harvey coal porter, living with Emma, and this came up:

HARVEY THOMAS M 1874 37 West Ham Essex

With the occupation and another family member Emma, might be worth paying to see original, hopefully you will get mother's name from it.

Jan

A possible for 1901......


1901 England Census
about Emma Harvey
Name: Emma Harvey
Age: 7 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: East Ham St Mary Magdalene
Town: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:...................3 Stanley Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 243
Household Members: Name Age
James Mc Cann 36....Head....Seas Steamship Engineer.....Dublin
Sarah Mc Cann 21....Wife....Bow, London
George Crook 3....Adopted Child....Bow, London
John Harvey 21.....Brother-in-law.....Coal Porter....Bow, London
Thomas Harvey 28......Visitor......Coal Porter .....Bow, London
Emma Harvey 27.....Visitor.....Poplar, London
Emma Harvey 7 months

RG13; Piece: 1606; Folio: 142; Page: 40

Possible birth.....


Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Harvey Emma S. Stoneham 2c 43

1911 census



HARVEY, THOMAS HEAD MARRIED 16 M 37 COAL PORTER BROMLEY
HARVEY, EMMA ELIZABETH WIFE MARRIED F 36 BLACKWALL STAIR'S
HARVEY, THOMAS SON SINGLE M 16 LABOURER CYPRUS ESSEX
HARVEY, SARAH JANE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 14 CONFECTIONERY CYPRUS ESSEX
HARVEY, EMMA DAUGHTER F 10 ITCHEN FERRY SOUTHAMPTON
HARVEY, WILLIAM RICHARD SON M 7 CYPRUS ESSEX



HARVEY THOMAS (RG14PN9552 RG78PN509 RD188 SD5 ED33 SN86)
Address 3 FERNDALE ST NEW BECKTON EAST HAM County Essex
District West Ham Subdistrict South East Ham
Enumeration District 33 Parish East Ham


Regards vera

Sarah & Thomas in 1901?

1901 England Census
about Sarah Harvey
Name: Sarah Harvey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Beckton, Essex, England

Civil parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: East Ham St Mary Magdalene
Town: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:.................19 Stanley Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members: Name Age
James Hudson 29.....39 on image.....Head.....Coal Porter....Rutland
Emma Hudson 28.....38 on image.....Wife.....Worcestershire
James Hudson 18.....Son....Hampstead, London
Elizabeth Hudson 16....Daughter....Canning Town, London
Ellen Hudson 14.....Daughter....Canning Town, London
Thomas Hudson 12.....Son....Canning Town, London
>>>>>Sarah Harvey 4.....Visitor....Beckton, Essex
>>>>>Thomas Harvey 6.....Visitor.....Beckton, Essex

RG13; Piece: 1606; Folio: 143; Page: 42

Kathleen,

My friends mum Emma was born 7th septemeber 1900 she thinks is the year. So dont know if that one would be right or not. Can only try by getting the cert. Thakyou.

Jo

Janet,

Is this for Thomas's birth? Thankyou.

Jo

Christina,

That looks like right family as just spoke to my mum's friend and she swears Emma was born in Southampton. So in that census her and her mum another Emma and Husband Thomas are visitors to the Cann household?

Thankyou

Jo

Jo, you haven't commented on the 1911 find - don't miss it. only a little post!
Jan

The birth registered in South Stoneham is the only one for the right place and year of birth, so is most likely hers.

Vera,

Thankyou this looks like the family aswell.

Jo

Janet,

I replied with is this the birth for Thomas? Sorry i am so useless with this lol.

Jo

Christina,

Thankyou so much, i will get my mum's friend to order the birth cert asap as its her nan's side she knows nothing about, then she will know more.

Jo

Hi Jo,

Re your pm. I've added the details to the post for Sarah & Thomas.

Looks like they were staying just 8 houses away from their parents.

Thankyou Christine.

Jo