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I am looking for a possible marriage for Ethel Ellen Jago -birth reg.1883 Woolwich. I have been looking on free BMD and have found amarr. in Dec.1907 Lambeth -but only Ethel Jago on the page. 1d 581. How can I find out the possible spouse??. Have tried, Ancestry and The Genealogist, where next please.
Cheers, June (in Australia)

The name appears to be the other way around: Ellen Ethel Jago.

Births Mar 1883
Jago Ellen Ethel Woolwich 1d 1283

Rose

Hi Rose, Yes, I know- abt. that. But in some census, she is Ellen, and in some Ethel, so as usual confusing. Thanks, anyway.
Cheers, June

1911 Census.
Ellen Ethel no name 1883 Woolwich

This came up.
Ellen Ethel Gurnsey 1800-1911 Military Woolwich London
with her is
Ethel Gurnsey

Hi June,

I looked on another site and came up with this info:

Marriage:

JAGO Ethel Lambeth.1d 581 4 1907
WILLIAMS George Henry Lambeth.1d 581 4 1907

Hope it helps.

Dea x

Have you discounted this marriage?

Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Crocker William Thomas Devonport 5b 756
*****Jago Ethel Ellen Devonport 5b 756
Morgan Reginald Devonport 5b 756
Spry Irene Devonport 5b 756

Dea x

Thank you to everybody. I tried the usual of looking for Ellen Ethel/Ethel Ellen with the names of spouses from marriages , and found no one. So, wondered about this marriage with only one name!, Hence, my query. Will try 1911 with the name supplied by Dea. Hope it works.

Cheers, June

Hi June,

I couldn't tie it down to the Devonport marriage, or the Lambeth one on 1911 but I DID come up with another possible:

Marriage:

HAINES Ancie Sarah Poplar.1c 945 2 1904
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JAGO Ethel Poplar.1c 945 2 1904
JONES Arthur John Poplar.1c 945 2 1904
ROBBINS Frederick Hingston G Poplar.1c 945 2 1904

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This would be a possible for that marriage on 1911:

1911 census: person search results
4 results found. You searched for:
Last names ROBBINS
Last names Algorithm Exact
District Greenwich
Other person last names ROBBINS
Other person last names Algorithm Exact
Other person first names ETHEL
Other person first names Algorithm Exact


Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page

HOUSEHOLD ROBBINS ETHEL F 1885 26 Greenwich London ***************
HOUSEHOLD ROBBINS FREDERICK M 1905 6 Greenwich London
HOUSEHOLD ROBBINS FREDERICK M 1879 32 Greenwich London
HOUSEHOLD ROBBINS GEORGE M 1907 4 Greenwich London
HOUSEHOLD ROBBINS JOHN M 1910 4 MONTHS Greenwich London
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I checked for Frederick's birth and the date fits with the one on 1911:


Births Dec 1879
Robbins Frederic Hingston G W. Ham 4a 99

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You would need to pay to view the other details on the page but I think it is a 'possible'?

Dea x

I think this makes it even more probable?

As Ethel was still quite young, I checked for more births:

Births Mar 1915
Robbins Albert V Jago Greenwich 1d 1985

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Births Jun 1917
Robbins Ethel A E Jago Greenwich 1d 1578

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Births Jun 1923
Robbins Louis C Jago Greenwich 1d 1784

There could, of course, be more.

Dea x

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I must be blind. I checked this Robbins and came up with zilch. This gives me hope of finding more -and some relatives of my g.grandmother, who came to Aust. in 1884 and never spoke of her family in UK.

Thanks again to everyone.

SorryEveryone. I jumped in too soon. This is not my Ethel Jago. This one was definitely born in Devon, and married in Devon. So, it's back to square one. I will look again at that Gurnsey in 1911.
cheers, June

No June,

I am sure the Robbins one is correct - have you viewed the 1911 image?

Frederick Robbins married Ethel in Poplar, London.

It was the other marriage which was in Devon (Ethel Ellen).

Have another 'little look' please - if the Robbins one was married in Devon and born there there is something strange about this as the marriages do not fit with the census?


Dea x

Sorry June, you are right - Such a shame as it was looking SSSooo good but I have traced the Ethel (Robbins) from 1911 to the 1901 and I have also found 'your' Ethel on 1901 (as Ellen!).

SSSoo....... NOT the same one then!

Considering there are not that many Ellen Jago's about, they are not that easy to follow!

I will look further.

Dea x

GOT IT!!!!!!!!! (I hope!)

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) .....mistranscribed!!
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CRIPPS George Edwin Woolwich 1d 2159
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IAGO Ellen Ethel Woolwich 1d 2159
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mason Edmund Montgomery F Woolwich 1d 2159
ROWLESTONE Annie Louisa Woolwich 1d 2159
ROWLESTONE Annie Louise Woolwich 1d 2159

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1911 Census Household Transcript (I owed you this one !!)

Search againName: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page
MASON, EDMUND MONTGOMERY FOSTER HEAD MARRIED M 27 ENGINEER'S MACHINIST LONDON HOSPITAL LAMBETH
MASON, ELLEN ETHEL WIFE MARRIED 4 F 28 PLUMSTEAD KENT
A household occupies a single original household page.

In cases where a household was too large for one page an institution schedule was filled in instead.

Institutions, vessels and military buildings may span more than one original page.

You will be charged 30 PayAsYouGo credits for each original page you view.
MASON EDMUND MONTGOMERY FOSTER (RG14PN2909 RG78PN100 RD30 SD4 ED5 SN9)
Address 13 GRIFFIN ROAD PLUMSTEAD County London
District Woolwich Subdistrict Plumstead East
Enumeration District 5 Parish Plumstead


Dea x

Have to go out now but this is Edmund's birth + him on 1891 (not with his parents unfortunately, but it's a start!!)

Births Sep 1883
Mason Edmund Montgomery F Lambeth 1d 347


1891 England Census
about Edmond M Mason
Name: Edmond M Mason
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England



Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George E Goldfinch 56
Kathleen J Goldfinch 45
Beatrice M Goldfinch 14
Rose Ellen Way 3
Grace B Way 2
Alice E Way 5/12
Edmond M Mason 7 visitor - b Lambeth
Charles Head 42



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 538; Folio 124; Page 50; GSU roll: 6095648.


Dea x

married 4 years and no children. I wonder if they lost any

I don't know Quinsgran, I only looked at the transcription as it costs 3 times as much to view the image which would, I believe, tell you this.

I did look for later childrens births where mmname is included but I couldn't find any at all.

Dea x

Sorry - have to go to bed now !!

Let me know how you have got on in the morning (your time!)

Dea Xxx

Thank you Dea. It looks as though you may be on to a winner here! I will look on 1911 image when I sort out what the problem is with my RBS world pay. Can't pay with eiterh 1911 or gro gov.- is anyone else having a problem???

My 'puter was upgraded recently, maybe the guy who upgraded did something to my security/privacy area. Who knows???

Will let you know if I find anything else.

Cheers, June

Hi Dea, Thank you. Yes, that is my girl. Sshe is the youngest of the family of my g.g.grandmother's youngest sister.(Catherine Jago-nee Pilkinton).

So, one more step along the way.

Cheers, June