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1841 look up please.

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Ann

Ann Report 11 Sep 2009 17:38

Oh dear sorry about the name!!!
Could i please ask someone to look on the 1841 census for James Smith born abt 1811 from Houghton Regis Bedfordshire, I would dearly love to know why at 30 years old he is not married.
very kind regards Ann.

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 18:00

oops...Have I got the wrong one then !!!!

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 18:02

Does help if you read the thread properly.....sorry Ann !!!!! Have deleted the messages because I was looking for JOHN Smith !!!


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 18:15

I wonder if this is him in 1851... Did he eventually find love !!!

Ag lab.
James Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Houghton, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Dunstable
Town: Dunstable
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Luton
Sub-registration district: Dunstable
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
James Smith 41
Sarah Smith 30
William Smith 8
Sarah A Smith 6
Joseph Smith 4
Elizabeth Smith 1


Regards Vera

Ann

Ann Report 11 Sep 2009 20:23

Hi Vera thank you Vera yes that is him in 1851.
I did find him i think in 1841 but i was wondering what address he was living at when he was single as there are alot of people at the same address.[1841]
Very kind regards Ann

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 20:50

He is living in Church Street....he is living with others although it doesn't state this on the 1841 it is possible they were all lodgers.

Regards Vera

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 20:52

Ann

1841 census

Name: James Smith
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Houghton Regis
Hundred: Manshead
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Luton
Sub-registration district: Dunstable

James Smith 30




James is living by himslef ................. in an area known as Chalk Hill

If you notice, every separate household after the first one on the page has "do" written in the column for address.


Usually households on the 1841 are separated by a double line, and separate families living separately in the same house are separated by a single line. This enumerator doesn't always seem to have followed that "rule"! BUT there is a double line before James' name, and after his name.



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 20:52

Hopefully Caroline.... they lived happily ever after,

Regards Vera

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 20:53

Have I got the wrong one then??


I don't see anything about Church Street ..... just Chalk Hill, Houghton Regis



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 20:55

The James I am looking at..... in the same house as.... single line... Alice Oliver then ends with a double line James Smith.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 20:58

This is the one I have found.....

James Smith
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Dunstable
Hundred: Manshead
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Luton
Sub-registration district: Dunstable
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Smith 30


.


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 5; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Dunstable; County: Bedfordshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 7; Page: 10; Line: 17; GSU roll: 241193.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 21:00

Maybe I have the wrong one !!!!

Regards Vera

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 21:13

The one I am looking at has Hannah Lines age 30, Straw Platter (or Hatter), plus 4 children, then a double line, James Smith, double line, and then George and Ann White



Could there be TWO James Smiths born Houghton Regis???


And of course, the age is out on the 1841 by upto 4 years, downwards.




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Vera

Vera Report 11 Sep 2009 21:18

Sylvia,
I think the one you found is the correct one...

Regards Vera

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 21:31

Hi Vera

not sure myself ....... Ann will have to try to make the call!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 21:37

??????

from International Genealogical Index on familysearch



JAMES SMITH Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 MAY 1809 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England


Parents:
Father: JAMES SMITH Family
Mother: SARAH

--------
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

-----------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C035531 1538 - 1812 0826545 Film 6905974 Film





this is the only one shown as Houghton Regis ..... which is not absolute proof of cousse, as he might have been taken to a nearby village where, for example, his mother had lived before marriage.





sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Sep 2009 21:49

???? possibly siblings???

Extracted records, parents James Smith and Sarah

47. JOHN SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 MAY 1810 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

48. JOHN SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUN 1816 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

50. LIDDY SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 JUN 1811 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

51. LYDDY SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 MAR 1813 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

53. WILLIAM SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 FEB 1800 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

56. MARY SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 MAY 1812 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

60. THOMAS SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 SEP 1804 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

61. JAMES SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAY 1809 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England


Submitted records, parents James Smith and sarah:-

49. ELIZABETH SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 OCT 1795 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

52. WILLIAM SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 FEB 1799 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England

62. HANNAH SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 JUL 1797 Houghton Regis, Bedford, England






'course, don't forget he wasn't really that old in 1841 .................. he could have been married and then widowed, but 30 was not that old for first marriage




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Ann

Ann Report 14 Sep 2009 13:57

Good afternoon to all that have help me on this thread,

Please i am very sorry that i have not replyed to say thank you,
You have all been so very kind in taking the time to check this out for me.
THANK YOU AGAIN ONE AND ALL!!!!
Kind regards Ann.

Ann

Ann Report 14 Sep 2009 14:12

WOW!!!!!

You have all worked so hard in finding these Smiths!!!!
I really cannot thank you enough, i will look into what you have found me,
Again thank you very, very much for all your kind help,
Very kind regards Ann.