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a BAILEY MARRIAGE possibly found,1861 census look

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Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 12:58

Many thanks Dea for your help also,sorry late reply i had to go get my wife,

Best wishes...Sam

Dea

Dea Report 20 Sep 2009 10:42

Hi,

I saw that marriage earlier but could not find a match for a Jane Usher on 1861 born in the right place.

There was one in Tunbridge but she was born in Kent

Is this the birth for albert George registered in Pancras, as I can't find one for Poplar?

Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
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BAILEY Albert George Pancras 1b 51

Dea x

P.S. - There was also this marriage which looked interesting - about the right time too. However, I cannot trace the other person on the page.

I have looked at the image and would say that the reference is 1d 740 but only 2 people come up on that reference and they are a different couple completely?

Name: Edward Albert George Bailey
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 74[60] (click to see others on page

Dea x



Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 10:28

nudge

Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 09:57

Hi Choccy you may have something here looks very possible,if Jane Usher was brn 1841 this may be the marriage.and If there is a Jane Usher on the 1861 census for Essex this might very well be her.

Thankyou very much for your help,most appreciated....Sam

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Sep 2009 09:47



possibly (after the birth)

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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**********BAILEY George Tunbridge 2a 747
KNIGHT Martha Tunbridge 2a 747
Stevenson Thomas Edwin Tunbridge 2a 747
**********USHER Jane Tunbridge 2a 747




Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 09:24

This is certainly a tough one at the moment,Christine in Portugal suggested maybe looking for Albert George Baileys baptism in Polar Middlesex,this might shed some light on where they possibly married?

Best wishes....Sam

Dea

Dea Report 20 Sep 2009 09:19

Unfortunetely Starr1, the 1868 marriage pair you have is not correct.

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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***BAILEY George Edward Manchester 8d 408
CHAPMAN George William Manchester 8d 408
***Grierson Elizabeth Manchester 8d 408
HOWARTH Mary Jane Manchester 8d 408



Lancs Bmd shows that George Edward married Elizabeth:

BAILEY George E GRIERSON Elizabeth Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/172/31

Dea x

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 20 Sep 2009 09:12

you never know
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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BAILEY George Edward Manchester 8d 408

HOWARTH Mary Jane Manchester 8d 408

Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 08:59

NUDGE

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Sep 2009 08:26

Alberts baptism may be on the LMA records on Ancestry but my subscription package doesn't cover these.

Record

Albert George Bailey info date name Bailey,
name Bailey info borough

Christine

Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 08:20

Thanks Christine, i appreciate your input.

Thanks....Sam

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Sep 2009 08:17

It may do but I can't find them either.

It would at least narrow down the marriage date.

Christine

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Sep 2009 08:17



here's the 1871 census

1871 England Census
Name: Albert G Barley
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George E
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Tonbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Tunbridge Wells
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
George E Barley 30
Jane Barley 29
Albert G Barley 7




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 930; Folio: 124; Page: 13; GSU roll: 838707.




Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 08:15

I have just looked through what i have on the Baileys and NO i do not have the 1871 Census Christine,do you think this might help.


Best wishes....Sam

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Sep 2009 08:08

Do you have them in 1871?

Christine

Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 08:03

Dear Christine,
Many thanks for your input, i may have to go this way in the end,

Thanks again....Sam

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Sep 2009 07:58

For ref

1881 England Census
about Kirby Bailey
Name: Kirby Bailey
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England

Civil parish: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: 3 Woodbine Pl
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Bailey 40
Jane Bailey 40
Albert Bailey 17
Kirby Bailey 8


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
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BAILEY Kirby James Tunbridge 2a 562 This birth reg will give you mmn.
As there is a big difference in age of children maybe one of them had been married before.

Christine




Pappa

Pappa Report 20 Sep 2009 07:28

Hi, i cannot seem to find the Marriage of George Edward Bailey brn 1841 Tunbridge Kent, to JANE/ JANET brn 1841 Great Dunmow, their first child Albert Gorge Bailey was brn 1864 Poplar Middlesex, so i am wondering if they married in Middlesex,

Any help to find the marriage greatly appreciated.

Thankyou....Sam

Choccy has found a possible marriage for the aboove please can someone look for a JANE USHER in 1861 ESSEX Please