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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 13:20 |
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HI Mel Yes it does say spinster, sorry i should have mentioned that earlier
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Oct 2009 13:08 |
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Have you got Edith's marriage cert to William John Rose? Does it say she was a Spinster?
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28 Oct 2009 12:44 |
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Sue has posted a marriage for William in 1879 to a Susan Short.
This could be her in 1871
Name: Susan Short Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Gender: Female Where born: Burrington, Devon, England Civil parish: Burrington County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: South Molton Sub-registration district: Chumleigh ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Edward Short 54 Widower, Ag. Lab. Susan Short 28 Unmarried, Occ Glover John Short 5 Grandson Louisa Short 1 Grandaughter
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28 Oct 2009 12:35 |
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Mel I think Both Reginald (Riegenell) & henry were born out of wedlock as they both have the surname Dymond. I have ordered Henry's birth certificate & am hoping it will name his father.
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28 Oct 2009 12:31 |
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This maybe the birth of Rieginell
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Reginald Dymond Name: Reginald Dymond Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Crediton County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 372 If he was a Stepson might not Edith Emily have been married before?
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 12:21 |
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thanks to everyone that has took the time & trouble to help me, one last thing, would anyone know how i could find the maiden name of Susanna or when she & William were married? regs Martyn
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Sue from Perth Oz
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28 Oct 2009 11:34 |
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Think these are the births for the children
Births Dec 1873 Diment Rhoda Rosa D St. Thomas 5b 54
Births Mar 1876 DIMENT John George St. Thomas 5b 57
Births Mar 1878 DAYMENT Edith Emily St. Thomas 5b 52
Not sure about that marriage you might have to order one of the childrens birth certs
Think i have made a mistake with the 1871 will go back and have a look
Cheers Sue
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28 Oct 2009 11:33 |
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There doesn't seem to be a matching birth on FreeBMD for Edith Emily - there are some Ediths but not with Emily as a middle name.
Has any one else seen anything likely?
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28 Oct 2009 11:26 |
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The William in 1891 (age on image is clear - he is 60)
Name: William Dymond Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susannah Gender: Male Where born: Monkton, Devon, England Civil parish: Rockbeare Ecclesiastical parish: Rockbeare Town: Rockbeare County/Island: Devon Country: England Occupation: Agriculural Labourer
Thomas in 1881 on the actual image and age has been entered then changed to 40 but I can't make out what the original entry had been.
Name: Thomas Dymond Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susana Gender: Male Where born: Monkton, Devon, England Civil parish: Whimple County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: Northcott Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Farm Laborer Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: Broad Clist
William and Thomas were both born in the same area but the 10 years difference in the age makes you wonder if it is the same person.
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Sue from Perth Oz
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28 Oct 2009 11:10 |
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Looks like Daisy was a twin
Births Dec 1879 Dymond Daisy Bertha St Thomas 5b 54 Dymond John St. Thomas 5b 53
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 11:09 |
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Sue the only thing that confuses me is according to 1891 census, William was aged 60, 1881 census says he was aged 40 & 1871 says he was aged 36. Do you think it is the same William that married Mary Ann Fisher in 1879 as it seems he was married to Jane in 1871 & Susana in 1881.
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 10:53 |
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Pollypoppet
Thanks for that, i did obtain a copy of the census but couldn't work out the relationship. I thought it said son which really confused me, but now it all makes sense. Thanks once again Martyn
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Sue from Perth Oz
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28 Oct 2009 10:50 |
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1871
Name: William Dymond Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Monkton, Devon, England Civil parish: Whimple County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: Broad Clist ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Dymond 36 Jane Dymond 33 Lucy J Dymond 10 William T Dymond 8 Anna S Dymond 6 Bessy A Dymond 4 James R Dymond 1
Looks like Jane's death
Deaths Sep 1871 Dymond Jane 33 St. Thomas 5b 32
Wonder if this is is 2nd marriage
Marriages Dec 1879 >>>>>Dymond William South Molton 5b 792 Fisher Mary Ann South Molton 5b 792 >>>>Short Susan South Molton 5b 792 Yendell George S. Molton 5b 792
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 10:48 |
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Sue from perth Oz Thanks very much, I assume Thomas could have been his middle name or simply the name he was known by. All my relatives seemed to go by their middle name or any name at random. Probably to confuse me when trying to research them! Thanks again Martyn
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PollyPoppet
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28 Oct 2009 10:41 |
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possible for robert ralph 1901 census Address Marsh Green Civil Parish Rockbeare Entire Rural District St Thomas Town or Village or Hamlet Rockbeare Ecclesiastical Parish Rockbeare St Mary Entire Parliamentary Borough or Division Eastern Or Honiton County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Devon Householder 1 Name Ellen Davey Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 33 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born West Hill Ottery Devon Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Margaret Davey Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 1 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Rockbeare Devon Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name William Davey Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 34 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Farmer Employment Status Where Born Chawleigh Devon Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Robert Dymond Relation to Head of Family Servant Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 17 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Carter Employment Status Where Born Aylesbeare Devon Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name Sarah Spiller Relation to Head of Family Servant Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 15 Sex Female Profession or Occupation General Servant Domestic Employment Status Where Born Ven Ottery Devon Language Infirmity
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Sue from Perth Oz
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28 Oct 2009 10:34 |
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1891
Name: Edith Dymond Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Susannah Gender: Female Where born: Whimple, Devon, England Civil parish: Rockbeare Ecclesiastical parish: Rockbeare Town: Rockbeare County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: Woodbury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Dymond 60 Monkton,Devon Susannah Dymond 48 Otterley,St Mary,Devon Edith Dymond 13 Daisy Dymond 11 Lilly Dymond 10 Ralph Dymond 6 Albert Dymond 4 Gertrude Dymond 2
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Name: Edith E. Dymond Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Susana Gender: Female Where born: Whimple, Devon, England Civil parish: Whimple County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: Northcott Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: Broad Clist ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dymond 40 Susana Dymond 38 William T. Dymond 19 Bessie Dymond 14 James Dymond 12 Roda Dymond 7 John G. Dymond 5 Edith E. Dymond 3 Daisy B. Dymond 1 Lilly V. Dymond
For some reason he is called Thomas in 1881 his occupation is Farm labourer
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 10:25 |
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Pollypoppet Thanks, that is definetaly Edith, but I would really like to know the birth of her father William & who is wife was. i can't seem to find any record of him on any census regards martyn
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28 Oct 2009 10:17 |
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hi could this be her in 1901 1901 census Address Marsh Green Civil Parish Rockbeare Entire Rural District St Thomas Town or Village or Hamlet Rockbeare Ecclesiastical Parish Rockbeare St Mary Entire Parliamentary Borough or Division Eastern Or Honiton County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Devon Householder 1 Name Harry Dymond Relation to Head of Family Step Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 4 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Exeter Devon Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Ridgenell Dymond Relation to Head of Family Step Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 3 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Exeter Devon Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name Edith Rose Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 27 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Hockland Devon Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name John Rose Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 32 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Labourer General Employment Status Where Born Aylesbere Devon Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name William J Rose Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 0 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Marsh Green Devon Language Infirmity
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Martyn
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28 Oct 2009 10:11 |
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Thanks to some great help from previous members i have been able to piece together g grandparents etc. Unfortunately I can't seem to go any further. My G Grandmother Edith Emily Dymond was born (according to her death & marriage certificate) in 1874 in Rockbeare Devon. She married William John Rose 20th Aug 1900 in the parish of Rockbeare which was witnessed by Emma Coles & Robert Ralph Dymond. Again, according to her marriage certificate her father was called William Dymond & was a Agricultural labourer. Unfortunately I cannot find William Dymond on the census & would dearly love to know where he was born, when he was born & his wife's name. Once again i would be very grateful for any help. regards Martyn
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