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Just a thought - any views welcome please!
I have very few London connections and basic Ancestry membership, but I am wondering if extra info is offered by parish records and the like? I have the marriage cert but wonder if there is anything to be gained by asking people to have a look for me? Or is it wasting their time?
Jan

Be daring and post it anyway!

I dont mind wasting my time lol

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You got it Ginny!

Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%)

BROWNING Thomas Shoreditch 2 352
CHESTERMAN Elizabeth Shoreditch 2 352

Help!! Now I can't find the cert!!

Jan

Hi Jan,

This may be of use


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Browning
Name: Thomas Browning
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Chertirman
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jul 1843
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Browning
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Chertirman

I think names have been mispelt though

Regards Jackie

Hope this helps

Name: Thomas Browning (Excavator)
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Chertirman (Charwoman)
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jul 1843
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Browning (Labourer)
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Chertirman (Labourer)

Bride's name transcribed wrongly - image looks like Chesterman.

PM your e-mail & I will forward a copy so you can see their 'mark'.
Need to bath little one so may be later tonight

Jan, can't find the marriage on Ancestry. In my experience it tends to show exactly the same info as the marriage cert, the marriage cert being a copy of the info in the parish records anyway. More useful for baptisms, I'm having a look for you now to see if I can find any possible children for them. Helen

EDIT - good spot Kattie, I couldn't see it for looking. My little one already bathed and watching in the night garden with daddy, my first break of the day!

Thanks Helen! Before you go to the trouble though need to tell you they did move to Birmingham at some point. If you are happy to look I can see which ones were born in |London.

Many thanks everyone to my "quick query"!!! (No such thing on here is there!)

Jan

PS we need to be careful though - there is a very somilar family lurking about!

A few possibles, clearly could be more than one couple called Thomas and Elizabeth Browning:

William Browning Baptism 31 Dec 1843 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint Paul, Canonbury Islington

Margaret Browning Baptism 8 Jun 1845 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint Clement, City Road Islington

Sarah Browning Baptism 21 Dec 1845 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint Paul, Canonbury Islington

Maria Browning Baptism 23 May 1847 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint Clement, City Road Islington

Mary Ann Browning Browning Baptism 22 Feb 1852 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning West Hackney Church, West Hackney Hackney

Amelia Browning Baptism 26 Feb 1854 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning St Botolph Bishopsgate City of London

Elizabeth Harriet Browning Baptism 26 Feb 1854 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning St Botolph Bishopsgate City of London

Thomas Browning Baptism 28 May 1854 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint Pancras Parish Church Camden

Thomas Browning Baptism 28 May 1854 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning Saint John The Baptist, Kentish Town Camden

Thomas Joseph Browning Baptism 30 Mar 1856 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning St Botolph Bishopsgate City of London

Frederick Samuel Browning Baptism 3 Oct 1858 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning St Botolph Bishopsgate City of London

William Charles Browning Baptism 3 Oct 1858 Thomas Browning,
Elizabeth Browning St Botolph Bishopsgate City of London

Thank you very much Helen - I'll have a look and see who is who!
Might I ask you please to leave this on for a couple of days?

Many thanks to Jaqueline and Kattie too, very interesting! .

Jan

Just to push my luck ... I don't suppose anyone would please be kind enough to look for a baptism for Elizabeth Chesterman? She was born about 1822, in London - on one census it is recorded as Kingsland. Her father was Thomas.

Thanks heaps!

Jan

Much as I hate to put personal hygiene before family tree research, there does come a time when the family complain, so off for a bath! So not being rude if there are any replies!!
Jan

there are these two:

Elizabeth Chesterman Baptism 28 Jan 1816 Thomas Chesterman,
Olivia Chesterman Christ Church Southwark

Elizabeth Chesterman Baptism 11 Apr 1821 Thomas Chesterman,
Elizabeth Chesterman Saint John At Hackney Hackney

I think out of the 2 that Helen has found the one in 1821 looks the best bet as the abode on the image is given as 'Kingsland'

On the same image as the 1821 baptism there is another Chesterman baptism on 8 April 1821

Sarah Elizabeth daughter of James (occup. Gardener) and Frances.

Brother of Thomas????

Brilliant!

Sorry, I said I'd have a look and got grabbed by the kids!

Glad you have got the info you wanted

Ginny
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You asked if it was worth looking at the PR image if you already have the certificate.

i'd say 'yes'. One of mine was transcribed on to the GRO as a Matmaker, which didn't really tally with his occ in census. I was imagining an industrial accident and sitting at home making rag mats. The PR image gives VAT maker, which is what he was supposed to be!!!

What I like about the parish records on Ancestry is that on the marriage certs you get to see their signatures - and the signatures of witness who are quite often family. That's lovely.

Jill

Well that's the bath over for another year.

Thanks for encouraging me to pester everyone Ginny - very funny that you disappeared!! Just between you and me, I don't think the others minded, in fact I think they have rather enjoyed it.

Seriously, thanks so much everyone. Helen, I think you have got the right baptism in that 2nd one as Londonbelle says - not just the Kingsland ref. but also the year. as her age is consistent throughput all census reports and marriage cert (if only I could find it!!). Many thanks for that.

Kattie, thanks for the mention of the other baptism, will look into it. And thanks too for the advice from Mrs Grumpy and DET. I would love to see the images, but not sure if it's justified in my case.

Folks, might I ask just one more general question please? On Ancestry, does "higher" membership give access to records other than those in London?

And one favour? Please can everyone leave thwre posts on here for about a week? I know we all like to get rid of threads but it will give me chance to sort out the info. Thanks.

If I've missed anything, or anybody,many apologies. I do appreciate all of your input.

Jan x