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Viv

thanks for the advice

will try and get it right next time

Chris

Please also try to think that I and others like me are just volunteer helpers that do this as a hobby and pay our sub just like you,but often pay our subs to the likes of Ancestry and Find my PAST to be able to help people,

I am only going this far to explain things to you because I want to try and "help",if I have the resources to do so,but unless you say what you want more help with I cant.
viv

Christopher.
If you would just explain what it is that that you want help with I am more than ready to try and help,but unless I know what it is I cant help,surely you can see that,

And if I cant help then there are others on here that probably can,if they can see what it is that you want help with.
Thats why it is best to reply on post.
viv

SORRY WONT HAPPEN AGAIN

I do not have a clue what this message is about Chris,sorry.

New message to Vivienne j

From Christopher

Hi Vivienne J

can you explain message

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My reply - what message??


Chris...
To reply on here please use the purple REPLY button at the top of the post,the submit button will be under the message you write,

This is exactly what we do to put info here for you...

Sorry I am being "sarky "here but if I only had a £ for every time I did Genes work for them on telling people how to reply on thread/post !!

Which you already know how to do ,so please do,it is so much easier when it is in the context of the subject .

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JOHN HAY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 19 OCT 1831

Christening: 30 OCT 1831 Perth, Perth, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER HAY Family
Mother: MARGARET WEDDERSPOON


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C119484 1827 - 1833 1040162 Film 6902908 Film

1871
John Hay -
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Perth, Perthshire
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 290 Hilltown
Occupation: Hessian Weaver
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 48
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1871_51
Household Members: Name Age
John Hay 36
Jane Hay 36 c1835 IRELAND
Margaret Healy 16 c1855 IRELAND-STEP-DAUGHTER
Jane Hay 4
Martha Hay 3
Anne Hay 10mo

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MARY JANE HAY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 23 APR 1865 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HAY Family
Mother: JANE DALL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C112821 1855 - 1867 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE

First Girl after Wife's Mother

According to Scottish naming pattern Alexander Hay should be John Hay's fathers name

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ALEXANDER HAY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 11 APR 1863 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HAY Family
Mother: JEAN DALE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C112821 1855 - 1867 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE


Sheet: 00

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MARTHA HAY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 20 JUN 1867 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HAY Family
Mother: JANE DALE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C112821 1855 - 1867 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE


Sheet: 00

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JANE DALE Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN HAY Family
Marriage: 31 DEC 1862 Dundee, Angus, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

There are 3 Robert Hays on the 1881, all born Dundee between 1871 and 1873. These 2 don't have fathers names on them.


Name: Robert Hay
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relationship: Adopted Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Forfarshire, Dundee
Registration Number: 429
Registration district: Ferry Port on Craig
Civil parish: Ferry Port On Craig
County: Fife
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 113
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_120
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hay 64
Robert Hay 9



1881 Scotland Census
about Robert Hay
Name: Robert Hay
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Jessie
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 77 South Tay St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 198
Line: 6
Roll: cssct1881_82
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie Hay 39
Alexander Hay 18
Jessie Hay 13
Robert Hay 10
Constantine McCaffrey 57
John McCaffrey 11


Liz

There is this birth showing.



ROBERT HAY Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
10 MAR 1873 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN HAY Family
Mother: JANE DALE


Don't know if you know any of his siblings but this one is connected to the above Robert.



ANN HAY Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
24 MAY 1870 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN HAY Family
Mother: JANE DALY

thanks for the info
looks good to me

will have to check Scotlandspeople

thanks once again

regards

chris

There is one match for Robert Hay born Dundee on Scotlandspeople in 1873.

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Pay per view only

£6 for 30 credits

Much better value to view a cert online than send for one in England at £7..

HAY, Robert Head Married M 39 1872 General Labourer Forfarshiredundee VIEW
HAY, Isable Wife Married
15 years F 36 1875 Hants Portsmouth VIEW
HAY, Annie Daughter F 8 1903 Hants Portsmouth VIEW
HAY, Frank Son M 6 1905 Hants Portsmouth VIEW
HAY, Alice Daughter F 2 1909 Hants Portsmouth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5613 Reference:
RG14PN5613 RG78PN254 RD90 SD4 ED21 SN231

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsmouth and Mid Southsea EnumerationDistrict:
21 Parish:
Portsmouth

Address:
1 Pucknalls Court Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

Robert Hay my grandfather born scotland1872 1873 Forfar?maybe moved south to Portsmouth date unknown married Isabella Cottrell 1896 Portsea Old Portsmouth lived in Broad st Old Portsmouth
Marriage cert April 5th 1896 Gunner Royal Artillery Hilsea Barracks Portsmouth father John Hay labourer

Chris