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Thanks for that Richard. As alviegal says its lovely to know that little bit of info.

Poor Rebecca, how sad is that? Workhouses were such horrible places.

Good luck with further research and have a Merry Christmas.

Ozi

Well done Ozi! Looks like you may have cracked it!

And thank you Richard for that wonderful bit of history. It makes such a difference when you can connect stories like that to an ancestor...definitely puts flesh on the bones, so to speak.

It sounds horrendous what that poor man had to endure and his poor wife, being thrown into the workhouse after his death!! We really don't appreciate how lucky we are in this day and age.

By coincidence I happened to be reading an article on Napoleon and the Hougeaumant farmhouse just the other day.

Have a wonderful Christmas.

Liz

A big thankyou to everyone who replied to my request, it certainly looks like Rebecca's maiden name was Bosley/Boseley.
John Snead served right through the Penninsular War in Spain and Portugal and helped deffend Hougeaumant farmhouse at Waterloo. During the battle he was hit in the thigh by a grapeshot ball and passed out and it was not until two days and nights later that he was found to still be alive. He had 22 splinters of bone dug out without anaesthetic. He and Rebecca were given an almshouse where they lived and raised a family.
He died in 1860 and as Hereford's last Waterloo veteran he was buried with full military honours and a little box with 22 splinters of bone in it. The almshouse went with John and when he died Rebecca was thrown out and ended up in the workhouse where she died in 1869.
Once again thankyou to everyone Richard

1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Turner
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Female
Where born: Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St Owen
Ecclesiastical parish: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address: St Owen St

Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turner 50 - Cordwainer
Rebecca Turner 54
Margus Turner 20 - [Feargus]; Cordwainer
Rebecca Turner 22 - Dressmaker
Sarah Turner 19 - Dressmaker
David Turner 17 - Cordwainer
William Turner 15 - Cordwainer
Jane Turner 12 - School Teacher [obviously a pupil-teacher]
Eliza Turner 2
Charles Turner 22 - lodger; unmarried; fell monger; Hereford

fell monger: one who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for leather making [works well with a shoemaker, don't you think]

Terrific, alviegal.

So if Rebecca who marries William Turner is a daughter of Rebecca and David Luxam, and Sarah is their daughter, then it's a heavy intimation that Eliza is also a daughter of Rebecca and David.

All roads lead to Hereford it seems.

1851 England Census
Name: Rebecca Turner
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hereford St Owen
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address: St Owen's Gate

Occupation: Shoe Binder

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turner 40 - master cordwainer; Bath, Somersetshire
Rebecca Turner 44
Rebecca Turner 12 - scholar; Burghill, Herefordshire
Fearzus O C Turner 10 - [I think this is Feargus O'C]; Kidderminster, Worcestershire
David Turner 7 - scholar; St Peter, Herefordshire
William Turner 5 - scholar; St Peter, Herefordshire
Jane Turner 2 - St Peter, Herefordshire


1841 England Census
Name: Rebecca Turner
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Kidderminster
Hundred: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Bromgrove St

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turner 30 - Shoe maker
Rebecca Turner 30
John Turner 6
Rebecca Turner 3
Fergus Clemonde 3

Births Mar 1841
Turner Feargus O'Connor Kidderminster 18 401

Marriages Mar 1869
Ashton John Manchester 8d 415
Beedham Emily Manchester 8d 415
Harding Sarah Ann Manchester 8d 415
Turner Feargus Manchester 8d 415

He's a bachelor, she's a spinster. Another child of David and Rebecca? Can't find any births for the children though.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Rebecca Luxam
Name: Rebecca Luxam
Spouse Name: William Henry Cook Turner
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 May 1831
Parish: Saint Mary At Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth

However this looks like Sarah in 1861.

1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Turner
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St Owen
Ecclesiastical parish: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
John Turner 42
Mary Turner 50
Mary J Turner 21
Sarah Turner 19
Thomas Turner 14
Charles Turner 9

Update: Obviously not, see later posts for details.

What's interesting about Eliza in 1851 is that she has her niece with her.

1851 England Census
Name: Eliza Ann Luxam
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster
Civil parish: Hereford St Peter
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Ann Luxam 40
Sarah Turner 9


Deaths Dec 1854
Luxham Eliza Hereford 6a 341


A William Henry Cook Turner marries a Luxam but again I don't have access to the details.

I'm not sure what you mean, Heather.

I'm assuming Eliza born Westminster is Rebecca's daughter from her first marriage. Is that what you're saying too?

Ozi

They married in Westminster and Eliza Luxam who is with them in Herefordshire was born Westminster

Name: Eliza Ann Luxam
Birth: abt 1811 - Westminster
Residence: 1851 - Hereford St Peter, Herefordshire, England

Hmmmm - Lambeth.

Looks like it's a probability. She would've been about 20.

alviegal, any records of children for that couple?


Ozi

Name: David Luxam
Spouse Name: Rebecca Bosely
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Feb 1806
Parish: Saint Mary At Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth

Just says she's a spinster and he's a bachelor.




Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about Rebecca Luxam
Name: Rebecca Luxam
Spouse: John Snead
Marriage Date: 1816
Parish: Westminster, Middlesex

There's a possibility that Rebecca was a widow. Pallot's Index card has 'w' after her name.

There is also a marriage of a Rebecca Bosley to a David Luxam but I don't have access to the details.

Ozi

Was just looking at this Joan. Eliza and Rebecca are both laundresses born out of county.


1841 census transcription details for: Catherine Street, St Peter, Hereford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 433 Book/Folio: 7/28 Page: 47

Reg. District: Hereford & Dore Sub District: Hereford City
Parish: St Peter Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Hereford
Address: Catherine Street, St Peter, Hereford
County: Herefordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LUXAM, Eliza F 30 1811
SNEAD, Rebecca F 50 1791
SNEAD, Thomas M 15 1826 Herefordshire
TURNER, Eliza F 8 1833



John and Sampson.



1841 census transcription details for: Gaol Lane, St Owen, Hereford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 433 Book/Folio: 6/28 Page: 25

Reg. District: Hereford & Dore Sub District: Hereford City
Parish: St Owen Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Hereford
Address: Gaol Lane, St Owen, Hereford
County: Herefordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
DAVIES, John M 28 1813 Herefordshire
DAVIES, Elizabeth F 24 1817 Herefordshire
DAVIES, John M 7 1834 Herefordshire
DAVIES, William M 6 1835 Herefordshire
DAVIES, Alfred M 4 1837 Herefordshire
DAVIES, Edwin M 0 (5 months) 1841 Herefordshire
SNEED, John M 60 1781 Herefordshire
SNEED, Samson M 19 1822 Herefordshire

Hi,
There is a record of John Snead marrying Rebecca Luxam in Westminster in 1816 this could be them.
Joan.

There is this showing?

Waterloo Medal Roll 1815
Name: John Sneaden
Regiment: ROYAL HORSE AND FOOT ARTILLERY
Sub unit: Major Whingate's (Rocket) Troop
Fate:
Title:
Last name: Sneaden
First name(s): John
Rank: Driver

and this. He was a corporal, 1st Foot Guards and had 2 clasps.

Peninsula Medal Roll 1793-1814
Name Regiment
SNEAD, John 1ST FOOT GUARDS

Just for reference.


1851 census transcription details for: 5, Prices Hospital, All Saints, Hereford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1978 Folio: 98 Page: 3

Reg. District: Hereford Sub District: Hereford City
Parish: All Saints Enum. District: 1D
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Hereford
Address: 5, Prices Hospital, All Saints, Hereford
County: Herefordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SNEAD, John Head Married M 66 1785 Chelsea Pensioner Brushmaker
City Saint Peters
Herefordshire
SNEAD, Rebecca Wife Married F 65 1786
Lambeth
Surrey
SNEAD, Sampson Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Labourer
Saint Peter
Herefordshire
SNEAD, Thomas Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Labourer
Saint Peters
Herefordshire

There are records at the National Archives for a John Snead of 1st Foot Guards. He served 1806-1816, was 31 when discharged and was born in Hereford. Is this him? His Army records are unlikely to give any info about his marriage though.

You could try the Army marriages on Findmypast, although they are far from complete.

Hi

I have just found a Jns Snead of 3rd Battn. Grenadier Regt. Foot Gards serving in Lt. Col Reeve's Company in the Waterloo Medal Roll for 1815. He was a Corporal. To be awared this means he served at one of the following battles, Ligny, Bras and Waterloo between 16 - 18th June 1815.

what do you think?

John Snead served in the 1st Foot Guards(Grenadier Guards) throughout the Napoleonic wars. He returned home to Hereford
with a wife Rebecca and their first child that I know of was born in 1818. From the census I know that Rebecca was from Lambeth
but I do not know where they got married, possibly Lambeth or even Spain, Portugal or Belgium, can anyone give me any pointers where to start looking?