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Hope it gives you a few more leads

BUT

without the certificates to confirm, it is only supposition and could be horribly wrong!

Assuming Frederick didn't die in WWI ( and there are a lot of F or Frederick Clarkes listed on the CWGC casualties site - www.cwgc.org)

I searched for marriages 1917 - 1935, Salford on

Freebmd.org.uk.....FREE to search so do try it out!

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
Clarke Frederick Lund Salford 8d 19

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Clarke Frederick Brandrick Salford 8d 266

Marriages Sept 1922 (>99%)
CLARKE Frederick J Adey Salford 8d 187


Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)
Clarke Frederick Robinson Salford 8d 713 -
Clarke Frederick E Stott Salford 8d 557 -

Unless someone can come up with parish records, to verify father's name, it is going to be expensive for you to check each record out.

Only order them from gro.gov.uk, specify father's name and you would get a partial refund for those that don't fit.

thank you so much

Ellen?

Ellen Clarke
Spouse Surname: Greenhalgh (William)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Salford
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 135

There are a number of Lancashire deaths, including this

Ellen Greenhalgh
Birth Date: 1 May 1895
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1987
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 39
Page: 727

Possible??? Same applies re MC

Bridget Clarke
Spouse Surname: Horner (George)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Salford
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 257

Possible death?

Bridget Mary Horner
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1996
Age at death (estimated): 95
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: TC48
District and Subdistrict: 0111C
Entry number: 250

There is a possibility that Ann married but you'd need the MC to be sure she is 'yours'.

Ann Clarke
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Walmsley (Edward)
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 204

IF that is the correct person, then this may be her death record

Ann Walmsley
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 1418

Added later.....Thanks for sorting it out last night, Sylvia

Here they are in 1911 .... using the free search. Thye are still living in Salford.

To see any more you will have to buy credits to look at the transcript (10 credits) or the actual census image (30 credits), or ask someone if they have enough to look for you.


HOUSEHOLD CLARKE ANNE F 1859 52 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE ANNE F 1889 22 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE BRIDGET F 1901 10 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE ELLEN F 1894 17 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE FREDERICK M 1860 51 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE FREDERICK M 1897 14 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE WILLIAM M 1893 18 Salford Lancashire




sylvia

Here is the family in 1901

FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN POSTED SO FAR .................. IT IS WRONG!!!



1901 Census

Name: Frederick Clarke
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate

Frederick Clarke 39 Fitter Cotton Machinery
Annie Clarke 40 b.ca 1861, Ireland
Annie Clarke 11 b.ca 1890, IRELAND
William Clarke 8 b.ca 1893, IRELAND
Ellen Clarke 6 b.ca 1895, SALFORD
Frederick Clarke 5 b.ca 1896, SALFORD
Bridget Clarke 7 months b.ca 1900, SALFORD
William Scott 49 b.Ireland, Boarder, Bricklayer's Labourer
Thomas Scott 18 b. Salford, Boarder (can't read occupation)

Address:- 29 Pine St



So they moved from Ireland to Salford between William's birth in 1893 and Ellen's birth in 1895.



sylvia

OK

I'll try to have a go ... it's still early evening for me :))))

That is, as long as I can get it straight!

DET posted
We have William Clarke b Salford 1883/4
Bridget (sister) b Salford 1900
Frederick (brother) b Salford 1888
Ellen (sister) b Salford1887
Ann (sister) b Ireland 1880

Father Frederick b Ireland...1861
Mother Ann nee Deegan b Ireland 1860


Angela then said:- they came to england when ann was 11yrs old willam was 8 ellen was 6 frederick was 5 briget was 7 months

so ALL children were born Ireland, and they came to England in ca 1891


Thus the new information is:-

We have William Clarke b Ireland1883/4
Bridget (sister) b Ireland 1900 <<<<<<<<<<<< should this be 1890???
Frederick (brother) b Ireland 1888
Ellen (sister) b Ireland1887
Ann (sister) b Ireland 1880

Father Frederick b Ireland...1861
Mother Ann nee Deegan b Ireland 1860


NO NO NO ............. birth dates are wrong, see next posting!!



sylvia

yes thankyou for all the help

im so so sorry

Angela. As it's rather late, i'm leaving this for tonight. if you aren't too tired, could you perhaps make a corrected list similar to the one I tried to do?

Some of the upside downers/night owls might be able to take over.

XX

yes sorry i think as two short planks

sorry its all wrong they came to england when ann was 11yrs old willam was 8 ellen was 6 frederick was 5 briget was 7 months

Right - (editted)

We have William Clarke b Salford 1883/4
Bridget (sister) b Salford 1900
Frederick (brother) b Salford 1888
Ellen (sister) b Salford1887
Ann (sister) b Ireland 1880

Father Frederick b Ireland...1861
Mother Ann nee Deegan b Ireland 1860

i was told thar frederick clarke was born in 1861 ireland his wife ann nee deegan born 1860 and daughter ann born in 1880 in ireland william 1884/1883 ellen 1887 frederick 1888 briget 1900 thats all info i got i just was wonderin if any of the children got married of died

det it could be 1883 he was born i sorry if i wrong about his birth date

yes sorry

In that case the above census are wrong.

edit - Frederick Clarke must have the wrong YOB if he was his father

father name frederick clarke born 1886 irleland wiliam sister ellen sister bridget all born in salfor except sister ann born in ireland