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I agree with what you have said tho, it is nice to find stuff for yourself and there is alot thats A'try World subs only i have included, so the last bit can be found freely is cool...

I just exhausted all options before i disappear for the week at work againm and you'll be waiting ages for someone else to find the thread and reply!

T x

Oh no problem with the 1911, I just meant if I'd known someone else would be looking for the other family members I'd have put the info here or suggested that BOB do it!

I've removed the 1911 and let them at elast find something thats free i suppose.

T xx

I dunno, our friend hasn't been back.

I didn't reproduce the 1911 census info because I thought BOB might like to look at the image themself at automated genealogy and I wasn't expecting somebody else to start looking for the info already found there!

I don't know why the question was just about the one brother, maybe it was known the other family members were in the US. Might have been nice to know. ;)

Ahhh ok JC, do we need anything on the brother?

Tracey x

Tracey, the whole family are on the 1911 Canadian census, immigrated to Canada 1906 (the immig date is in the census).

It looks like one brother headed south of the border first and the others joined him.

The first inbound trip.... looks like the whole family emigrated!

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Walter Alexander
Name: Walter Alexander
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Date of Arrival: 17 Jun 1906
Vessel: Sarmatian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Sarmatian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England and Le Havre, France
Roll: T-487

another border crossing?

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Walter R Alexander
Name: Walter R Alexander
Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1922
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1896
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Port Huron, Michigan, USA

Interesting, it's Walter with his mother Susanna and a sibling (?) Muriel. Both listed as Single. Susanna is listed as Widowed, normal address Los Angeles.

Tracey x

mgnv, forgive me, but you do tend to complicate matters!

Sorry Tracy, my guess on that Viola Carr marriage was out, that guy is 10 years too old, and our Walter's father was James.

The California death index is an exact match for the birthdate on the WWI record, and he was indeed born in Newport, so that looks like it's him, terrific!

...and this if you don;t already have it??

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Walter R Alexander
Name: Walter R Alexander
Arrival Date: 7 Aug 1921
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birthplace: Newport
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Port Huron, Michigan
Departure Contact: Brother Alfred
Arrival Contact: Friend Elizabeth James

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_1

This card lists him as Canadian, living at 186 Withrow Ave, Toronto, ONT.

HIs friend Elizabeth lives at 1023W 89th Street. Los Angeles, CA

Money Shown $700.00, time to be spent in America, Indef.

Seaport and date of landing, Quebec, 07/02/1906, Samarian.

Lastly he states he's a Salesman.


Tracey x

Going on the birth details JC found for you.... this look likely to be him??

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Walter R Alexander
Name: Walter R Alexander
Social Security #: 561189381
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1895
Birthplace: England
Death Date: 7 May 1971
Death Place: Los Angeles


Tracey x

ahhhh...sorry you want this one, the mother bit takes some getting around!!

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Walter Alexander
Name: Walter Alexander
Birth Place: Concord NC Us
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Father Name: Harry Alexander
Mother Name: Does Not Remember Mother Dead Ago He Was Yong Alexander
Spouse Name: Viola Carr
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Birth Place: Charlotte Co VA Us
Spouse Father Name: James Cousins
Spouse Mother Name: Nancy Barrett
Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1912
Marriage Place: Essex
Marriage County: Essex
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_203

Walter states he was living in Detroit Michigan, He's a Hotel Waiter, a Baptist. Viola also states living Detroit Michigan, She's a Widow, and a Baptist also.

Tracey x

Hey JC, this the record you need?

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Walter Alexander
Name: Walter Alexander
Birth Place: King York County
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Father Name: George Alexander
Mother Name: Susanna Alexander
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Jane Lansing
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Birth Place: Skugog Island
Spouse Father Name: William Henry Lansing
Spouse Mother Name: Harriet Lansing
Marriage Date: 2 Feb 1881
Marriage Place: Grey
Marriage County: Grey
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_36


Tracey x

A bit of an unclear question. Any one can see his attestation papers online and free.
For his service record, any one can order the record - there's a per page charge + postage,
with a discount for OAPs. Drill down at:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

and you can see the link at:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-130-e.html

To see Janey's 1911 image:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002039542.pdf

NB For Newfie records, try:
http://ngb.chebucto.org/index.html

The whole census page? Did it get sorted?

Change your subject line to "Ontario marriages Ancestry help please" or some such maybe, and you should get those marriage details before long!

His brother is transcribed as Alfred C Alexander at automatedgenealogy, but he seems to have been Alfred George. His enrolment papers are there too, the typing is very fuzzy but the mother seems to be Susanna for him as well and the August 1892 birthdate matches. He too seems to have survived.

Searching at Ancestry, Ontario marriages, there is a marriage for a Walter Alexander with mother Susanna, it seems - searching for the marriage of an Alexander with mother Susanna. The wife may be Viola Carr, doing the search in reverse for someone who married Walter Alexander with mother Susanna (the Ontario records are much more detailed than in England).

I don't subscribe there but someone here with Ancestry worldwide may be able to help.

http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=7921

Marriages are only available up to 1924, and no births after 1909.

Didn't get the whole page at first. My I wish your marriages were as easy!!!!!!!!!
Thanks

You're welcome! You can find him in the 1911 census too.

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp

click Ontario, enter Alexander, then on the next screen filter by putting given name Walter. He's the last one on the list, Walter R L Alexander - how nice of him to use his whole name!

Then click on the page number beside his name, 49, to see the whole list. His family is listed with him. Then click "split view" at the top to see the original image. Enlarge it to 100% and scroll down the page until you hit the Alexanders.

Thanks JaneyCanuck I will give it a try.
BW