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Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2010 01:40

The enumerator must have been deaf

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 12:30

I just looked up at the FreeBMD

Births Sep 1849 VOYCE William Jeremiah Stroud 11 399


So looks as Jeremiah used his middle name later life.

Thank you again both on this, much appreciated!

I have never come across such complicated family name!

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 31 Jan 2010 12:01

Same family.. ??William was 'William Jeremiah' in 1861 and just 'Jeremiah' after that ????

1851 England Census about William Boice
Name: William Boice
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cranham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Cranham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cranham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Boice 42 .. Ag. Lab.
Sarah Boice 39
James Boice 15
William Boice 2
Clare Boice 2

"Voice" on original..
1841 England Census about Thomas Voier
Name: Thomas Voier
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Cranham
Hundred: Rapsgate
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Painswick
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Voier 40
Sarah Voier 30
Mary Voier 9
Jane Voier 7
James Voier 5
N K Voier 1 Mo .. male

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Jan 2010 11:58

Can someone find Charlotte Boyce/Voice/Voyce 1846 Cranham AUNT not sister of Ellen Ann on earlier census 1851,1861 to try to confirm the family together

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Jan 2010 11:53

1881 census
son John
John Boyce 1868 Cranham scholar

address Clifton Certified Industrial School

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 31 Jan 2010 11:51

Jeremiah's marriage certificate should also give you his fathers name and occupation

??????
1861 England Census about William Jeremiah Boyce
Name: William Jeremiah Boyce
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cranham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Cranham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cranham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:
Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Painswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Boyce 59 .. Ag. lab.
Sarah Boyce 49
James Boyce 25 .. Ag. lab.
William Jeremiah Boyce 11
Mary Jane Heyden 11 .. niece

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 11:49

Thank you so much for your time doing this... Its been a great help!


Amazing how many variations recorded on the censuses. Voice, Voyce and Boyce. My Great Grandfather Birth Cert stated Voice and D with Charles Weaving as Voice. So I guess the person who jotted down the census returns didnt listen properly or people couldn't write!!

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 31 Jan 2010 11:46

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
BOYCE Jeremiah Stroud 6a 529

No one else on page ??

cross reference..with wife's name from 1871 census...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Clara Ann Hiden
Name: Clara Ann Hiden
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: [56]29

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Jan 2010 11:44

Heres Jeremiah who was found in 1871

1881 census.
Geo Barnfield head 1861 Cranham occ general lab.
Jas.Barnfield lodger 1857 Cranham occ general lab.

Jeremiah Voyce widower lodger 1851 Cranham occ general lab.

This looks like his wifes death.
Clara Voice 1850 died 1878 sept qt Stroud gro ref 6a 183

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 11:38

Why the warning MGNV?

I have fully explained the reason. Choccy didnt read what I put.

Quinsgran: Ellen did have an aunt Charlotte. Charlotte was listed Boyce when she married James Cripps. I wasnt sure if it was the same person

mgnv

mgnv Report 31 Jan 2010 11:36

Choccy - thanks for the warning

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Jan 2010 11:36

Alison.

Im not sure if its her. If you look at my addition you will see James William Cripps married Charlotte Boyce

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 11:33

Thank you Quinsgran

Thats explains why I am been unable to find her as the census people spelt the name wrong.


Battenburg

Battenburg Report 31 Jan 2010 11:30

1881 CENSUS perhaps.
James William Cripps 1871 Strouid occ coachman.
Charlotte wife 1846 Cranham.
ELLEN BOYCE niece 1871 Cranham

address Church Rd Weston Subedge Glouc

James William Cripps married Charlotte Boyce

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 11:30

Thank you Julcoe! Thats what I needed. Thank you!

Choccy - No one replied to the other thread when I asked another question. I waited 24 hours but nothing.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 31 Jan 2010 11:29

Do you have her marriage certificate ?
It should have her fathers name & occupation.

??????
1871 England Census about Ellen Ann Boyce
Name: Ellen Ann Boyce
Age: 7 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jeremiah
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Female
Where born: Cranham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cranham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Painswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Jeremiah Boyce 21 .. Ag. Lab
Clara Boyce 21
John Boyce 3
Ellen Ann Boyce 7 months


Choccy

Choccy Report 31 Jan 2010 11:27



there is another thread about this -


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1201490

Alison

Alison Report 31 Jan 2010 11:20

I seem to have one complicated ancestor on my hands the moment.

I am looking for Ellen Ann Voice on the 1871 and 1881 census., she is not there. She was born in Cranham (Stroud district) Gloucestershire around 1868 according to Census 1891 under her married name but her birth is listed on the FreeBMD on Sept QTR 1870 in Stroud under Ellen Ann Voyce. I know censuses can shift year of birth by a year or two. I tried different variations. (I know her surname is spelt VOICE on numerous certificates I have on my Grandfather) I was wondering if I could have a second pair of eyes in case I have overlooked as I keep getting Ellen A Voice 1874 Titchfield and Ellen Ameila 1859 St Braviels which both are not my Great Great Grandmother.

Many thanks