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This is fantastic,you have Really helped me out with this,,Thanks so much Jacki,and others. This information has opened a door for me in the search. regards Deb

Had a look for Anne's birth but all I could come up with was this one

1 29/12/1822 STEVENSON ANN WILLIAM STEVENSON/JANE YOUNG FR1363 F AIRDRIE OR NEW MONKLAND /LANARK 651/ 0060 0038

mothers maiden surname agrees but first name does not but I would keep a note as perhaps the son just did not know his grans first name and she went by Mary

Johns death was regestered in District of Plantation County of Lanark


John Ewen coal miner married to Ann Stevenson died 6 Sep 1885 age 53

28 Plantation Street Govan
parents William Ewan ploughman dec and Christina Ewen m/s McLaren dec death was registered by C Larkison? residence at 4 Newstead {lace Govan Road(Present)


Jackie

Here is Anne's death

Ann Ewen widow of John Ewen carter
died 18 Feb 1889 Kirk Street Stonehouse age 63

parents William Stevenson coalminer

Mary Stevenson m/s Young

death was reg by William Stevensen Ewen 152 Easter Road Edinburgh
son

The image on SP says that

Mary Ewen was born on 4 May 1868 in Craigneuk father John Ewan Coalminer and mother Anne Ewan m/s Stevenson parents marriage is noted as 27 Jan 1854 Riccarton Ayr

parents marriage from parish records
27/01/1854 John Ewing/ Ann Stevenson Riccarfton Ayr
GRO 611/00200340The image gives no information it states

7th Jan 1854 John Ewing and Ann Stevenson both in this parish entered their names and were proclaimed on three days and married 27 by Rev Jeffrey

1851 Scotland Census
about John Ewan
Name: John Ewan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunning, Perthsh
Parish Number: 651
Civil parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 60 Flowerhill
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 21A
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_170
Household Members: Name Age
James Ewan 22 Dunning, Perthsh
Christinia Ewan 22
John Ewan 2
Christina Ewan 4 Mo
John Ewan 16


James and Christinas marriage;

JAMES EWEN Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: CHRISTIAN CAMPBELL Family
Marriage: 02 JUL 1848 Dunning, Perth, Scotland




And then their son Johns baptism.... look at the name change again;

JOHN EWING Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 08 FEB 1849

Christening: 22 JUL 1849 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES EWING Family
Mother: CHRISTINA CAMPBELL




Dee x

Have you got a DOB for Mary Ewan? If not I think it may say on her death certificate...... hopefully if you could find this out it should confirm if the birth reg I found on SP is actually her.


Dee x

Hi,

If you mean the surname Ewan/Ewen or Ewing and the different spelling of it, like already stated this was possibly down to the fact that everyone would hear and spell differently, and unfortunately you may never know the REAL surname and don't forget surnames did have the ability to change slightly over the years. As for John Ewan, well his place of birth helps and in 1851 he is living with a brother..... so with 2 of the boys names it would narrow the search down for his parentage.

Ann/Annie Stevensons though maybe a different kettle of fish... I couldn't see her in 1851 (only had a quick look though), so it maybe difficult to trace her back.

The years of birth for Mary's parents (James and Annie) C. 1848..... can I take it this was a guess, thinking if she was the first born then they would be approx 21 years of age at marriage?? And I presume James is named on Marys marriage certificate? What was his occupation??? I couldn't see John and Ann in 1881... so maybe John had died and Ann remarried??? If this is the case maybe Mary wasn't sure of her fathers name and maybe even used a stepfathers name??




Dee x

Dee,How will I know what the real surname Is.Would it make it impossible to go further back.?

This is the birth on SP for the Mary that I found;

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1868 EWEN MARY F DALZIEL /LANARK 639/00 0173



And if James was actually John we wouldn't be able to get a marriage certificate because SP starts in 1855 and their marriage was in 1854.




Dee x

Here is the marriage for John and Ann.

As for Ewing/ Ewing, remember a lot of these people were illiterate, transcribers wrote names as they heard them so accents played a big part and yes, names did vary through the years but they are essentially the same.

Further north, Gaelic was still being anglicized so there is a lot more scope for mistakes.

You have a few children with middle names. These are usually surnames in the family, eg grandparents, g grandparents etc.



JOHN EWING Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN STEVENSON Family
Marriage:
27 JAN 1854 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland

Jacquline,Its a guess,thats why I need someone to help me with this as nothing seems to add up..Her daughter Mary married in Australia age18yrs, Deb

Hi Goldielocks

I have looked on SP for a marriage between a James Ewan and Annie Stevenson but nothing is showing up and have searched for a birth for Mary too but all the births around the date you gave do not match sorry.

Thank you to all,Iam still confused,names?But Ewan not Ewing is what I have,I dont think I have seen a family that chaged their surname as much as this lot.Or maybe they could not read or write! Iam sure Stevenson is the correct name for Ann,as Mary named one of her daughters Annie Stevenson Day. You all have done alot of work and Iam thankful.Deb

Children born to that couple.

1. MARY EWEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 MAY 1868 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
2. HUGH MCLELLAND EWEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 18 DEC 1874 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
3. ISABELLA BOAG EWEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 18 DEC 1874 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
4. ANN EWEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 JAN 1871 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
5. CHRISTINA MCLAREN EWING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 APR 1860 New Cumnock, Ayr, Scotland
6. WILLIAM EWING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 JUL 1855 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
7. JOHN EWING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 JUN 1862 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
8. JAMES GEMMEL EWEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 FEB 1858 St. Quivox And Newton, Ayr, Scotland

Mistranscribed;

1861 Scotland Census
about Ann Eison
Name: Ann Eison
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Whithill, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 597
Registration district: Kilmarnock
Civil parish: Kilmarnock
County: Ayrshire
Address: Cambuskuth Cot House
ED: 24
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_86
Household Members: Name Age
John Eison 25
Ann Eison 25
William Eison 5
James Eison 3
Christinna Ewen 11 Mo



Dee x

The birth I found relates to this family;

1871 Scotland Census
about Mary Ewan
Name: Mary Ewan
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dalziel, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil parish: Dalziel
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Carluke Turnpike Rd
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 79
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1871_122
Household Members: Name Age
John Ewan 35 Born Duning, Perthshire. Occupation; Miner
Ann Ewan 35 Born Whitcliffe, Ayrshire
William Ewan 15
James Ewan 13
Christina Ewan 11
John Ewan 8
Mary Ewan 2
Annat Ewan 2mo
Thomas Sulter 5 >>> nephew



Dee x

Is this Mary?

1881 Scotland Census
about Mary Ann Ewen
Name: Mary Ann Ewen
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Craignuck, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 649
Registration district: Lesmahagow
Civil parish: Lesmahagow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Tillietudlem Cot
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 205
Line: 25
Roll: cssct1881_262
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McLelland 41
Mary McLelland 39
Selina McLelland 3 Mo
Mary Ann Young 82
Mary Ann Ewen 12


Dee x


EDIT>>>> This is what Genuki says about Dalziel;
"a central parish of the middle ward of Lanarkshire, containing the village of Craigneuk, and, at its western border, the greater part of the police burgh of Motherwell.:

Hi,

Could there have been a mix up with the fathers name?

MARY EWEN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 04 MAY 1868 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN EWEN Family
Mother: ANN STEVENSON



They had a son in 1856, and this marriage would be in the corect area for that birth;

JOHN EWING Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN STEVENSON Family
Marriage: 27 JAN 1854 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland


However I don't think this couple could have been born C. 1848, so is this date just guess work?



Dee x

Its only a guess but Craignuek..its what I have on their daughters marriage cert. or area surrounding. (Lanark) many thanks Deb

Can you give a little more info like where about in Scotland we are looking please