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Thank You Julia for looking Henry up. And thank You Christine for asking about the birth locations.

I'm sure once the certs are ordered it will either sort or confuse further. ;o))

TOR x

Christine

Yes, Emily/Lucy birthplace and age the same, bit of a puzzler!"!!!

Here are some of the other childrens birth records, based on 1891 census

Births Mar 1874 GOULD Joseph Lexden 4a 339

Cant see one for Charles

Births Sep 1879 Gould Alice Sarah A Lexden 4a 399

Births Mar 1882 (Gould Ellen Louisa Lexden 4a 484

Births Dec 1886 Gould Edith Lexden 4a 537

Cant see Frank William either.

Julia

you're wonderful. It's worth getting the birth cert, or at least ordering it with checks in place.

Thank You.

TOR x

Is her birthplace the same in 1891 as given for Lucy because the ages are the same.

Christine

have checked the original and its definately Emily L.

There is this birth, could be?????

Births Jun 1884
Gould Harry Lexden 4a 502

Possibility Christine BUT her birth is recorded as Lucy as is her marriage and she's on the 1881 census as Lucy. Mind you a some point the family did change the surname to Gold so anything is possible.

As she is Emily L in 1891 maybe she was Emily Lucy.

Christine

Nope I can't find a death or remarriage either.

Any chance that Emily is a transcription error ?


Thanks for your efforts though.

TOR x

Ive been looking for Lucy's death and a reamrriage, nothing so far!!

Thanks Julia

will check and see if I can kill Lucy Gould off. As some of the offspring match. Always possibility of Lucy dying and Walter remarrying.

Nope life can't be that simple.

TOR x

Possible

1891 England Census
about Henry Gould
Name: Henry Gould
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter
Mother's Name: Emily L
Gender: Male
Where born: Lexden Bottle End, Essex, England

Civil parish: Lexden
Ecclesiastical parish: Stanway Lexden All Saints
Town: Colchester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester Second Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Gould 47
Emily L Gould 40
Joseph Gould 19
Charles Gould 14
Alice Gould 12
Ellen Gould 10
Henry Gould 7
Edith Gould 4
Frank Wm Gould 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1409; Folio 58; Page 15; GSU roll: 6096519

This marriage throws that out of the iwndow

Marriages Dec 1871
Goody Lucy Lexden 4a 603
Gould Walter Lexden 4a 603

Ok lets see if we can attack this in a different way.

Could someone please do a couple of 1891 look ups for me.

Henry Gould c 1885 Parents Walter 1845 & Lucy 1845 Essex possibly Lexden

Lily Woodard 1885 Parents unknown in Essex probably Maldon.

Thanks and sorry for being a pest

TOR x

Thanks Ann

got Walter and Lucy with offspring (not Henry) in 1881

RG11 1798/26 6 at Stanway Essex

Does help that I know about as much about Essex as I do about nuclear physics.

TOR x

Oops I was busy typing while you were putting 3rd post up.

1881

Walter GOULD Head M Male 36 Stanway, Essex, England Ag Lab
Lucy GOULD Wife M Female 30 Birch, Essex, England Laundress
Agnes G. GOULD Daur Female 11 Birch, Essex, England Scholar
Joseph GOULD Son Male 9 Lexden, Essex, England Scholar
Jane GOULD Daur Female 6 Lexden, Essex, England Scholar
Charles GOULD Son Male 4 Lexden, Essex, England Scholar
Alice GOULD Daur Female 1 Lexden, Essex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 8 Bottle End
Census Place Stanway, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341434
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1798 / 26
Page Number 6

1881

George GOULD Head M Male 50 Witham, Essex, England Fellmonger
Mary A. GOULD Wife M Female 52 Coggeshall, Essex, England
Frederic GOULD Son Male 13 Kelvedon, Essex, England Farm Boy
Walter H. GOULD Grandson Male 7 Kelvedon, Essex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling High St Cott
Census Place Kelvedon, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341436
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1808 / 37
Page Number 28

1881 - connection?

James GOLDS Head M Male 43 Steying, Suffolk, England Labr
Louisa GOLDS Wife M Female 36 Brighton, Sussex, England
Henry J. GOLDS Son Male 13 Brighton, Sussex, England Office Boy
Alice S. GOLDS Daur Female 12 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
Emily GOLDS Daur Female 7 Canning Town, Essex, England Scholar
Walter S. GOLDS Son Male 4 Canning Town, Essex, England Scholar
Mary A. GOLDS Daur Female 2 Canning Town, Essex, England
George BAKER Boarder U Male 30 Tunbridge, Kent, England Labor
John HEATH Boarder U Male 32 Port Hove, Sussex, England Labor
Thomas AKEHURST Boarder U Male 40 Port Hove, Sussex, England Labor


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Source Information:
Dwelling 6 Hemsworth Street
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341409
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1713 / 45
Page Number 68

Hi after some more help I'm afraid.

Got a Henry Gold (possibly Gould at birth) c 1885 married a Lily Woodard (JAS 1885) Both of Essex

I can't find a birth for Henry nor a marriage for them.

Maldon and Lexden seem to be popular locations for this family.

Henry's parents were Walter c1845 and Lucy (nee Goody) 1845.

Any help would be appreciated.

And before anyone tells me...... yes I know I'm going about this the wrong way.......not my family, doing a favour and working with information I've been given.

TOR x