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ASTRA
BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHERE DID YOU FIND THE BAPTISMS FOR ELIZABETH AND FREDRICK
I MUST BE MISSING SOMETHING SOME WHERE
THANK YOU
MADDIE

Ann harvey in 1851 census is sister to wife Sarah Watson.So Ann was Ann Widley.

Sarah Widley married Thomas Watson 1843 as stated before.

Maryb

Hi everyone
sorry not been in touch but have a had a nasty bug.
Have searched for Harvey - Wildney marraige but canno find.
The 1851 census has Ann Harvey down as sister in law to Sara Watson so does that make her Ann Watson. If so still can't find a marraige.
Was trying to find Thomas and Ann Watson as part of a family in1841 as Thomas di did not marry Sarah Wildney until 1843 but no joy.
Any other thoughts please

thank you
Maddie

The Borough is a neighbourhood abt 1 km S of London Bridge. I don't know the precise boundaries, but it probably is in both Lambeth and Bermondsey.
It is in greater London, in Surrey before the creation of the County of London, when it became part of the Co of London.

I found you John Harvey in 1841 with mum Ann and aunty Jane, Charlotte and Sarah Wildey posted in previous message.

Maryb
Charlotte Wildey married 1850 St lukes middlesex to William Simpson

1861 Charlotte Simpson widow farmer of 266 acres
Ann Simpson says sister 69 or sister n law?
Jane Wildey Sister 50 born London
John Harby 1853 london visitor.
Address Swithland Leicestershire district 3b image 6

Maryb

thanks Astra
then maybe her daughter was Eliza as well
just read both as shortened version of Elizabeth
but poor John does not seem to exhist before 1851

Maddie

She was Eliza Maddie not Elizabeth. It's important for searching that the name is correct.

I suspect that this is her baptism. I just wish I could find one for John

Eliza Allden
Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
16 SEP 1827 St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Charles Allden
Family
Mother: Harriett Allden

Searched high and low for a baptism but can't find one anywhere.

thanks for your help
I know he was married to an Elizabeth, I suspect Elizabeth Allden
but is he a London, Surrey or Essex Harvey
any ideas
Maddie

Thomas Watson
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Spouse Name: Sarah Wildey
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jun 1843
Parish: St Giles Cripplegate
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Robert Watson
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Wildey

No marriage listed for Ann Wildey to a Harvey though

Where did you get John Harvey from as her Spouse Mary??

1841 Jane Wildey dressmaker
charlotte Wildey 1821
Sarah wildey 1821 did this one marry thomas Watson born 1820 and have Sarah Ann 1846
Ann harvey 1816
John harvey 1829
Charles C can't read as it is faint age 70 a solicitor
John same name age 20
Address longthorne Place Stratford District 7 Image 9.
It also says they wern't born in County.

So Ann Wildey married John Harvey.

Maryb

This looks like Frederick William's death

Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%)
Harvey Frederick William Bethnal Gn 1c 230

None of which has helped us to locate his birth place for you.

Also on 1851 census with John Harvey is Ann Harvey born midlesex 1809 so is this John's mum,she is sister to Sarah watson age 38 born Middlesex.

Maryb

They were baptised at St. Bartholomews Bethnal Green.
His baptism is listed just above Elizas on the original image but he doesn't come up in a search. All the details are the same. Address, Occupation etc.

Where were Eliza and Frederick christened,he wasn't with them on any census's and he doesn't seem to have died.

Eliza poor love was down as imbicile on 1871 census.She wasn't with them 1881

Maryb

Marriage

John Harvey>>>>>>carpenter
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Spouse Name: Eliza Allden>>>>>>>hatter
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Mar 1852
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Harvey
Spouse Father Name: Charles Allden

Address for both 31 Well Street
Witnesses
James Wilson
John Samuel Ames

John Harvey carpenter and his wife Eliza appear to have had two children baptised on 7th November 1858.

Eliza who was born 31st January 1853 (I think it's very faded) and
Frederick William born 5th July 1858

Their address is given as 3 St. Bartholomews Terrace

Minnie Julia

Minnie Julia Harvey
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 13 Feb 1870
Father's Name: John Harvey
Mother's Name: Eliza Harvey
Parish: St Matthias, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

trying to find parents of john Harvey born 1827 /28 He married Elizabeth and had 2 children, Minnie and Elizabeth,
He appears to have been a carpenter.
In 1851 census may have been a visitor at 25 Remington Street. States he was born in Borough Surrey
1861 - living in Bethnal green. Born in Stratford Essex
1871 - living in Bethnal green with kids - born in London
1881 - living in bethal green with Minnie. Born in Lambeth Surrey.
Problem is can't work out where he was born.

Anyone any ideas please
Maddie