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Hi all i am quite new to this but would be most grateful for any help, i am trying to find my gt grandfather Joseph Garner Mather. My grandad was william garner mather born in liverpool 17-6-1924, Joseph s wife was Dorothy. Thanks Carol

Hi Carol
A maybe marriage

Name: Joseph G Mather
Spouse Surname: Green
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 246
Find Spouse: Dorothy M Green

Name: Joseph Garner Mather
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 176


Name: Joseph G Mather
Death Registration Month/Year: 1954 JUN Q
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 468

Marriages Dec 1923
Green Dorothy M Mather Liverpool 8b 246
Mather Joseph G Green Liverpool 8b 246


Births Dec 1888
MATHER Joseph Garner Toxteth Park 8b 176


My "darlings"mother was a Mather.!

poss 1911

HOUSEHOLD MATHER GLADYS F 1891 20 Toxteth Park Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MATHER HILDA F 1895 16 Toxteth Park Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MATHER JOSEPH M 1862 49 Toxteth Park Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MATHER JOSEPH M 1889 22 Toxteth Park Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MATHER MARGRET F 1862 49 Toxteth Park Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD MATHER VIOLET F 1898 13 Toxteth Park Lancashire

poss

1891 England Census
about Joseph T Mather
Name: Joseph T Mather
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph G
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12 Brenton St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph G Mather 28 >>>>>>>>>>>Accountant
Margaret Mather 26 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born Scotland
William G Mather 9
Margaret Mather 8
May Mather 5
Joseph T Mather 3 >>>>>>>>>>>Initial J on image
Gladys Mather 7/12


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2934; Folio 28; Page 50; GSU roll: 6098044.

There are quite a few on 1911 to choose from and none with second name of Garner or even initial G.

His occupation would help to narrow it down.

Many thanks for your replys iwill now order some certs, thanks again Carol

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1923

MATHER Joseph G GREEN Dorothy M Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/346/30

Viv, try accountant for father's occup on 1911

Ha Ha..Accountant?becomes a yardman!!
In a builders Merchants...

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park East EnumerationDistrict:
3 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
29 Aspen Grove Liverpool County:
Lancashire
MATHER, Joseph Head Married M 49 1862 Yard Man Yournford
MATHER, Margret Wife Married
30 years F 49 1862 None Ayr Scotland Ayrshire Resident VIEW
MATHER, Joseph Son Single M 22 1889 Engraver Brass Lpool Lancashire
MATHER, Gladys Daughter Single F 20 1891 Shop Assistant Lpool Lancashire
MATHER, Hilda Daughter Single F 16 1895 Upholsteress Lpool Lancashire
MATHER, Violet Daughter F 13 1898 Lpool Lancashire

poss 1871

1871 England Census
about Joseph Mather
Name: Joseph Mather
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
William Mather 50 >>>>>>>>>>>>Dock labourer, born Galgate, Lancashire
Margaret Mather 50 >>>>>>>>>>>Born Pilling, Lancs
Elizabeth Mather 19
John A Mather 17 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Under gardener
Alice Mather 12
Joseph Mather 9


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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3775; Folio: 73; Page: 8; GSU roll: 841888

Times musta be hard!!

PM from Carol to say that this is the correct Joseph on 1911 as she now has his marriage cert.

MATHER, Joseph Son Single M 22 1889 Engraver Brass Lpool Lancashire

With father Joseph and mother Margaret.

And to answer the question as to where Joseph 1862 says he was born ,I cant read the 1911 entry.

Joseph 1862 says he was born in Liverpool on 1901 and Liverpool on 1891.

This should be his marriage to Margeret.

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
MATHER Joseph Toxteth Park 8b 553
TEMPLETON Margaret Toxteth Park 8b 553
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1881 for Margaret Templeton.

SAWYER, John Head Married M 40 1841 Painter
Southport
Lancashire
SAWYER, Margaret Wife Married F 44 1837
Scotland
TEMPLETON, Margaret Stepdaughter Single F 20 1861 Dressmaker
Scotland
TEMPLETON, Elizabeth Stepdaughter Single F 16 1865 Upholstess
Scotland
TEMPLETON, Mary Stepdaughter Single F 13 1868 Upholstess
Scotland
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3642 Folio:
100 Page:
46

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Toxteth Park Municipal Borough:
Address:
3, Beresford Road, Toxteth Park County:
Lancashire

Well,if you squint just right,it looks like Joseph 1862 was born in Liverpool,but no awards for penmanship!!

Maureen

So nothing like the Transcription then ????
And having been an Acountant?? at one point you would think he could write more clearly.
Lucky he hadnt been a Doctor !

I obviously cant squint correctly Maureen,I will leave that to you...:)

I'm a world-class squinter!!!

Maureen