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I was wondering if anyone can check the 1911 cencus for me. Im trying to find the name of a sibling for my nan. The family lived in west derby, Liverpool my nan was the eldest Winifred b. 1908, there was Thomas b1909, Edward 1911, Lilian1914, William 1916(twin), May 1916(twin) & Arthur 1920. We know there were 8 but cant remember the name or birth year. We think it may be 1910ish and BDM didnt show mothers maiden name then. Their parents were Thomas Naylor ad Ann (maiden name Rees). Hope someone can help.

Cheers

Jo

Have you tried looking?

It is free to search..........

I can find no Winifred Naylor in 1911 with a father Thomas.

Ive been on 1911cencus but cant see rest of household (need to pay for credits! am i on wrong site?) and as i dont know the name or age i cant confirm anything.

No i couldnt. Maybe they were away from home or refused to fill it in? But definatly right info.

Just to get a 'handle' on things

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
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NAYLOR Thomas W. Derby 8b 793
REES Ann Winifred W. Derby 8b 793
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Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
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NAYLOR Winifred W Derby 8b 608

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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Naylor Thomas W. Derby 8b 571

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Naylor Edward Rees W.Derby 8b 1059


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Naylor Lilian Rees W. Derby 8b 1191

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Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Naylor May Rees W. Derby 8b 1021
Naylor William Rees W. Derby 8b 1021

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Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Naylor Arthur Rees W.Derby 8b 1511

1911

NAYLOY THOMAS M 1885 26 West Derby Lancashire
NAYLOY THOMAS M 1910 1 West Derby Lancashire
NAYLOY WINIFRED F 1887 24 West Derby Lancashire
NAYLOY WINIFRED F 1908 3 West Derby Lancashire


Only two children - unless one had died, but it requires credits to find out that info

Thanks Flick

Got all the births for names i have but thats great work (quick)

Hadnt got the Nayloy info. Its goood to find. I wonder if the missing child could have been born after the cencus was done? I found a John in 1911 but couldnt be sure (it didnt ring any bells with my mum. Her mind is just a blank conserning the name!).

I will have to send for the birth cert.

Thanks for your help.
Jo

full 1911 census Flick found

it says on image only 2 children born up to 1911 none had died
and on the image the surname is NAYLOR

1911 census transcription details for: 32 Oliver St Falknes St Liverpool

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN22597 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED45 SN151


Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: West Derby Western
Parish: West Derby Enum. District: 45

Address: 32 Oliver St Falknes St Liverpool
County: Lancashire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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NAYLOY, Thomas Head Married M 26 1885 Street Pavior Liverpool Lanc S

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NAYLOY, Winifred Wife Married 4 years F 24 1887 Liverpool Lanc S

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NAYLOY, Winifred Daughter Single F 3 1908 Liverpool Lanc S

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NAYLOY, Thomas Son Single M 1 1910 Liverpool Lanc S

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As Edward's birth was in 1911, there couldn't have been another one in that year

Thats the right address & duh sorry forgot Edward. It must be later then. Theres 12 mnths between Lil & Twins both Jul quarter. Theres a bit of a gap between the twins and Arthur (Jul quarter 1916 - Jan quarter 1920). I looked through all the BDM lists but couldnt find a match (they were listing the mothers maiden name then, but they could have got it wrong!). Ill keep looking cause i know there were 8. I can remember my nan telling me!

Hi Joanne

Never thought of the war years !! It looks like Thomas was in WW1

Name: Thomas Naylor
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Age at Enlistment: 31
Residence: 32 Oliver St Lpool
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 27788 (28658)
Regiment Name: The Cheshrie Regiment
Number of Images: 5


There are a number of images of his British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 On Ancestry

`It gives his wife as Winifred Ann Rees --marriage date 25/12/1906


Although I can't seem to find Thomas on the CWGC site-- I think he may have died !!!

FIRST AWARD--WIDOW

Naylor Thomas
Cheshire Reg
Regimental number 3/ 28658
name of Widow--Naylor Ann Winifred
32 Oliver Street, Liverpool


Children 4 males 3 females Eldest born 23/01/1908 Youngest born 11/0219/20
The order was made 14th October 1921


I will send you a PM

All the best
Barbara

Sorry must have clicked on Submit twice !! so deleted the second

Sorry must have clicked on Submit twice !! so deleted the second

No its GR as its just happened again !!!

I wouldn't take as gospel that there were 8 children, families did get confused. Plus if one was stillborn or miscarried, it wouldn't be registered.

It doesn't look as is Ann Winifred married again--this looks like her Death index ( although the year of birth is a year out --it should have been 1886)

Name: Ann Winifred Naylor
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1885
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 681

Yeah this is correct, she didnt marry again. she hed a friend but wouldnt marry him.

Hi Joanne

Sent the images as promiced in PM. Hope you can get them OK.

Best wishes
Barbara