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You would be better to order the original marriage cert from GRONI as sometimes ancestryireland.com get there information wrong. I have at least 3 with the wrong data.

Nathan...Have looked for Wm pre 1911 and the earliest I can locate him living in Palestine St.is 1907...He wasn't there 1901 Census..a Mr McCracken Brass Finisher was at No.47.....

1907.

47 Palestine St.
Menelly, Wm., labourer

Who is Samuel...????

Was wondering if there's any way or website on which I can check if Samuel Meneely had William Meneely as a son? I've been looking for ages now and can't find any reference to a mathew montgomery meneely anywhere, and thought it may be worth running with the theory it may be a miscopy or lie on the part of the couple? Worth a shot perhaps? Don't like mysteries!

Just out of interest what source were you using to see Palestine street in 1912?

Nathan...I am also having difficulty finding MMM...plenty of othes but no MMM..however you do have Wms MC and you have him on the 1911 Census...
Mary Aggie and Maggie were still listed at 47 Palestine St.1912..but I cant locate Wm or Edmond...

I'm not sure if this is helpful, but adds to the problem rather. William's middle name was John, and on the IGI there is the following entry:


William John Meneely
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
20 AUG 1858 Connor First Presbyterian Church, , Antrim, Ireland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Samuel Meneely
Family
Mother: Isabella Knox

The MC above suggests that William was over 21, although on the 1911 census the age given would imply his DoB was 1862!? The area is pretty accurate and there's no signs of Mathew Montgomery Meneelys in Antrim on most sites I've seen. It would be plausible to think these are the same people but have no idea why he would put a different fathers name on his MC! Very confusing, so think this must just be a coincidence, but worth noting if any kind soul can make head or tail of it

Thanks Erin, interesting announcement that, certainly worth keeping hold of. I'll copy/paste the details of the MC if I can so you can see what I've got to go on:
Type Civil Marriages
Date Of Marriage 26/12/1881
Husband Firstname WILLIAM
Husband Surname MENEELY
Husband Townland / Street BELFAST
Husband Occupation PORTER
Husband Age FA
Husband Denomination Presbyterian
Husband Marital Status Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Husband Father Firstname MATHEW MONTGOMERY
Husband Father Surname MENEELY
Husband Father Occupation FARMER
Husband Mother Firstname
Husband Mother Surname
Husband Witness Firstname WILLIAM
Husband Witness Surname BICKERSTAFF
Wife Firstname MARY ANN
Wife Surname BICKERSTAFF
Wife Townland / Street BELFAST
Wife Occupation SERVANT
Wife Age FA
Wife Denomination Presbyterian
Wife Marital Status Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Wife Father Firstname WILLIAM JOHN
Wife Father Surname BICKERSTAFF
Wife Father Occupation LABOURER
Wife Mother Firstname
Wife Mother Surname
Wife Witness Firstname JANE
Wife Witness Surname BROWN
Denomination
Comment BY LICENCE REV H WOODS MGR: HUSBAND'S FATHER DECEASED.
Address1 FOUNTAINVILLE Presbyterian
Address2 BELFAST
Address2 SHANKILL
Address4 Antrim

William and Mary can be found on the 1911 census easily enough, aged 49 and 50 respectively, living in Palestine Street, Cromac, Belfast. Making Will and Mary 19 and 20 at the time of marriage. This is what I've got to go on and it's not altogether that much!

Nathan...What was Williams wifes name...?
What address is listed on the MC.?

Nathan...May not be connected but worth keeping hold of..

DEATHS: 1877

MEENELY:- July 24, at her fathers residence, 25 Cambria Street, Belfast, Agnes, daughter of William Meneely, aged 19 years. The remains of my beloved daughter will be removed for internment in Templepatrick New Burying ground, tomorrow( Thursday) morning at ten o'clock. Friends will please accept this intimation...William Meneely.

Been doing some research and found the wedding certificate of William Meneely (married 1881, Belfast), he being born in 1862. On the certificate his father is put down as MATHEW MONTGOMERY MENEELY, Farmer, with a subsequent note detailing that he was deceased at the time of the marriage. So he must have been alive until at least 1862. I've tried the IGI as suggested but haven't been able to find anything that could fit, even when taking into account various name changes! Without knowing exact death or birth dates for him it's tricky. Thanks for the help so far Ann, although don't think it's the same people on account of ages. Any further tips would be greatly appreciated as all this complication is giving me a headache!

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William Hanna Meneely Compact Disc #133 Pin #728874 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1 Aug 1889

Belfast, Antrim, Ireland
Death: 5 Oct 1935

Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA

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Parents
Father: Lodwick Meneely Disc #133 Pin #728867
Mother: Susannah Hanna Disc #133 Pin #728868

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elizabeth Dallas Crawford Disc #133 Pin #728948
Marriage:

WILLIAM MENEELEY Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 03 DEC 1867 , Antrim, Ireland
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Parents:
Father: JAMES MENEELEY Family
Mother: ISABELLA SMITH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Husband's Name
William MENEELY (AFN:4ZT2-61) Pedigree

Born: 1 Aug 1889 Place: , , , Ireland

Father: Lodwick MENEELY (AFN:4ZT1-M4) Family
Mother: Susan HANNA (AFN:4ZT1-N9)

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Wife's Name
Elizabeth (AFN:CWZ5-HH) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1893 Place:

and McNally!!

23. MATTHEW MC NALLY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 26 SEP 1864 Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

24. MATTHEW MC NALLY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 12 APR 1868 , Galway, Ireland

25. Matthew McNally - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 08 FEB 1875 , Meath, Ireland

26. Matthew McNally - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 08 FEB 1875 , , Ireland

27. Matthew McNally - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 15 OCT 1879 Beldaragh, , Dublin, Ireland

1881

Mathew MCNEALY Self S Male W 29 IRE Groom IRE IRE
Christopher PETERSEN Other S Male W 24 PRU Groom PRU PRU


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Source Information:
Census Place Petaluma, Sonoma, California
Family History Library Film 1254084
NA Film Number T9-0084
Page Number 61A

A McNeely with theforename Matthew? If so that would be a very interesting development!

can't see any Meneely's but can see some McNeeley's

Hi, am trying to research some Irish family history and have hit a bit of a wall and was wondering if anyone out there may be able to help point me in the right direction. Am looking for any information regarding a Matthew Montgomery Meneely (name subject to many changes particularly surname: meneely, menelly, meneilly, etc), died prior to `1880s, most likely born 1820s/30s Lisburn Northern Ireland, a farmer, had a son, William Meneely (b. circa 1850s). Isn't much to go on but people on this site have been so helpful in the past I thought it may be worth a try to ask here for advice. Many thanks,
Nathan Greaves