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Lockhart Brothers from Scotland

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David

David Report 29 May 2010 22:48

I am looking for the origins of two brothers who left Scotland after marrying their spouses in Dumbarton and came to live in St Helens, Lancs to work in the glass industry.

David Lockhart in the 1871 Census (married to Jane/Jean - nee Boyle) gives his place of birth as 'Stirling, Scotland'.

The 1851 Census had his brother, James Jaffray Lockhart with wife, Elizabeth (nee Ogilvie) living in adjoining houses in Mount Street, St Helens.

I am struggling to find a parish record of their births - c. 1800) and would welcome any suggestions that GR members may have.

Thank you.

David Owen
Blackpool
29 May 2010

Hi
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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 22:58

1871 For Ref.Name: David Lockhart
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Stirling, Scotland
Civil parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
David Lockhart 70
Jane Lockhart 65
Lilias Drysdale Lockhart 25
John Cathel 31


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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:00

1841
Name: David Lockhart
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Warrington
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

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Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Lockhart 37
Jane Lockhart 35
Elizabeth Lockhart 14
Jane Lockhart 12
Mary Lockhart 10
Catharine Lockhart 8
David Sechrest 5


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Aileen

Aileen Report 29 May 2010 23:01

Possible births

03/10/1799 LOCKHART DAVID THOMAS LOCKHART/CATHRINE MITCHELL FR259 M BALFRON /STIRLING

10/04/1801 LOCKHART DAVID JOHN LOCKHART/MARY DOW FR445 CAMPSIE /STIRLING

but without parents names they will be almost impossible to trace with any certainty

Aileen

Aileen Report 29 May 2010 23:04

08/01/1797 LOCKHART JAMES THOMAS LOCKHART/JANET MITCHELL FR256 M BALFRON /STIRLING

23/08/1797 LOCKHART JAMES WILLIAM LOCKHART/ANNE TAGGET FR748 M STIRLING /STIRLING

Aileen

Aileen Report 29 May 2010 23:05

Just found this one which looks very promising

05/08/1808 LOCKHART JAMES JAMES LOCKHART/AGNES JAFFRAY FR1486 ST NINIANS /STIRLING

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:11

Only 1 set of Banns ,so both in the Dumbarton Parish
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DAVID LOCKHART Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JEAN BOYLE Family
Marriage: 14 JUN 1823 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M114967 1820 - 1855 1041986 Film 6900826 Film


Sheet: 00

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:13

Again only 1 set of BAnns.

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JAMES JEFFRAY LOCKHART Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH OGILVIE Family
Marriage: 21 AUG 1818 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M114966 1682 - 1820 1041986 Film 6900826 Film

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:16

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JAMES LOCKHART Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: AGNES JAFFRAY Family
Marriage: 06 APR 1800 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M114887 1688 - 1754 1041957, 0102128 Film 6902159 Film

M114887 1774 - 1870 1041957, 0102128 Film NONE


Sheet: 00



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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:18

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JAMES LOCKHART Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 AUG 1808 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES LOCKHART Family
Mother: AGNES JAFFRAY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C114886 1783 - 1819 1041956, 0102127 Film 6902158

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:21

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JOHN LOCKHART Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 JAN 1806 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES LOCKHART Family
Mother: AGNES JAFFRAY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C114886 1783 - 1819 1041956, 0102127 Film 6902158 Film

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:21

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AGNES LOCKHART Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 MAR 1801 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES LOCKHART Family
Mother: AGNES JAFFRAY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C114886 1783 - 1819 1041956, 0102127 Film 6902158 Film

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:22

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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ISABEL LOCKHART Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 FEB 1805 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES LOCKHART Family
Mother: AGNES JAFFRAY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C114886 1783 - 1819 1041956, 0102127 Film 6902158 Film


Sheet:



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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:23

No Bapts. found for David.
Can't be that family James to young to marry at 1818

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 May 2010 23:29

realise tis is not exactly what you are looking for but wonder if it is Elizabeth?

1881

Ellen ADAMS Head W Female 56 Antrim, Ireland Housework
Harriet J. HANLON Daur M Female 26 Belfast, Ireland Cotton Winder
Isabella MCLOUGHLAN Sister U Female 50 Mayo, Ireland Cotton Piecer
Edward HANLON Gd Son Male 3 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Harriet E. HANLON Gd Daur Female 2 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth LOCKHART Boarder W Female 66 Scotland (Charwoman)
Catherine BARNES Boarder W Female 50 Ireland Cotton Weaver


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Source Information:
Dwelling 20 Heath St
Census Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341950
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3980 / 11
Page Number 15

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 29 May 2010 23:34

Does there marriage on Scotlands people give any extra info?

David

David Report 31 May 2010 10:05

I am extremely grateful to all who are helping me, Ann of GG, Elle and in Newtown has a child born the Third of April and Baptized the Fourth eighteen hundre

I am disappointed that we can't find 'David'. Could the Church records be missing the name ?

I thought I had found David in the baptismal record as the son of John Lockhart and Mary Dow at Newtown, Campsie, Stirling for 3 April 1801 , but perhaps he is another member of their extended family.

Where and when was David (my great-great grandfather) born?

Thanks once again for such kindness and commitment in doing this research for me.

David Owen
Blackpool
31 May 2010



David

David Report 31 May 2010 10:07

My last posting was garbled to say the least. Lots missed out. Should have previewed before I posted.

Special thanks to Aileen !

Warm regards to you all.

David

Helen

Helen Report 31 May 2010 11:34

For interest: May be your family

Father: David Lochart,
Mother: Jean Boyle


International Genealogical Index

1. LILIAS LOCKART - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 JUL 1836 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
2. DAVID LOCKART - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1838 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
3. ISABELLA COCHRAN LOCKHART - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 MAY 1826 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
4. MARY LOCKHART - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 SEP 1831 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
5. JEAN LOCKHART - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUN 1828 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

I don't have access to the census but you could try asking for the 1841 onwards, using one of his children's names. I see Lilias is mentioned in the 1871 census .. there's a chance David may mention his birth parish .. allowing you to narrow down a baptismal record (if it exists)


This may be of interest. Parents of Jean Boyle ?

Father: Robert Boyle,
Mother: Isabella Cochrane

1. ROBERT BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 JUN 1794 Row, Dunbarton, Scotland
2. ISABEL BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 APR 1791 Row, Dunbarton, Scotland
3. LILIAS BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1808 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
4. LILIAS BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1808 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
5. MARY BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 SEP 1805 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
6. MARY BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 SEP 1805 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
7. JAMES BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 MAR 1797 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
8. JAMES BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 MAR 1797 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
9. JANET BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 APR 1799 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
10. JANET BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 APR 1799 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
11. JEAN BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 AUG 1803 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland
12. JEAN BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 AUG 1803 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

Familiar family names handed down here ... especially the mother, Isabella Cochrane. (Isabella Cochrane Lockhart)


Robert Boyle,
Spouse: Isabella Cochrane

1. ROBERT BOYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 JUL 1790 Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland

David

David Report 2 Jun 2010 13:22

Many thanks, Helen, for your great contribution to the debate. I am sure the families you mention are very much part of the whole.

I shall try and draw out the possible connections to whom you point me, and which could be very useful.

Cheers.

David Owen
Blackpool
2.6.2010

Very sunny, here !