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William Henry Mugford 1875/78

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Susan

Susan Report 9 Jun 2010 13:14

I am trying to find William Henry Mugford as his name appears on my grandmothers and her siblings birth certificates. I dont know anything else about him. He wasnt married to my great grandmother Mabel Ellen Westaway 1883 but they had 8 children starting with Doris in 1906. All the children were born in Marldon in Devon. I think he was previoulsy married to Jane Martha Williams on the 1901 census but on the 1911 she was with someone else and had a child . I cant find William or Mabel or the 3 or 4 children they had by then on the 1911 census.
Any help or information on him or Mabel would be great. Sue

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Jun 2010 13:17

OK, here is Doris I think:

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
Mugford Doris Irene Totnes 5b 137

Might this be them 1911??

MUGFORD, W Head Married M 55 1856 General Labour Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, M Wife Married F 29 1882 Marldon Paignton Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Queeine Daughter Single F 4 1907 Paignton Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Doris Daughter Single F 2 1909 Paignton Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, W Son Single M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Paignton Devon VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12792 Reference:
RG14PN12792 RG78PN735 RD273 SD1 ED4 SN270

Registration District:
Totnes Sub District:
Paignton Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Paignton

Address:
Colley End Paignton County:
Devonshire

Flick

Flick Report 9 Jun 2010 13:19

Mabel in 1891

Name: Mabel E Weataway
[Mabel E Westaway]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Eliza L
Gender: Female
Where born: Marldon, Devon, England

Civil parish: Marldon
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Marldon
County/Island: Devon
Country: England



Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Paignton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Weataway 31 born Torquay
Eliza L Weataway 31 born Exeter
William H Weataway 12
Loura G Weataway 9
Mabel E Weataway 7
George A Weataway 5
Earnest A E Weataway 3
Arthur A L Weataway 1

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Jun 2010 13:20

Note - I think the W. Mugford above might be 35 not 55, looking at image, which would make birth year about right..
Jan

Flick

Flick Report 9 Jun 2010 13:20

1891?????????

Name: William Mugford
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Totnes, Devon, England

Civil parish: Paignton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Paignton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Paignton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Mugford 39
Mary Mugford 38
William Mugford 15
Sidney Mugford 4
Florence Mugford 6
Susan Mugford 2
Maude Mugford 4/12
William Hayes 29

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jun 2010 13:21

Totnes covers Marldon

Guess this is child of William and Jane

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Births Dec 1911

Mugford William H H - Mmn Williams - Totnes 5b 225

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Jun 2010 14:11

Not sure they did! Most people didn't divorce back then (difficult & expensive), so just set up home with new partner.
There is this having said that:

Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
MUGFORD William Henry Totnes 5b 409
Powlesland Clara Totnes 5b 409
Searle Mabel Totnes 5b 409
Squance Richard Josling Totnes 5b 409

Jan

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jun 2010 18:00

PM received
Thanks for your help.
william is a child of william and mabel. the child he had with jane is called mildred and had the name hynes on her birth records... he was the man she was with.
From Susan

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Aug 2011 22:47

Based on your information that William's father was also William.

1881 census?

MUGFORD, William Head Married M 26 1855 Lab Masons
Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Mary Wife Married F 28 1853 Tailoress
Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Anna Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Rhoda Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, William Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Totnes Devon VIEW
MUGFORD, Elsie Daughter Single F 0 1881
Totnes Devon VIEW
MADGE, Philip Lodger Single M 32 1849 Lab Masons
Plymouth Devon VIEW

RG number: RG11 Piece: 2171 Folio: 31 Page: 23
Registration District: Totnes Sub District: Paignton
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Paignton Municipal Borough:
Address: 18, Mill Lane, Paignton County: Devonshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Aug 2011 22:48

???????????
Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Mugford William Henry Totnes 5b 175

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Aug 2011 22:51

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
MUGFORD Elsie Jane Totnes 5b 182

????
Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
Mugford Elsie 1 Totnes 5b 109

Susan

Susan Report 2 Aug 2011 23:01

thanks for your quick replies... i didnt realise i had to return to this thread.. i do now.
Sue

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Aug 2011 23:02

1901 census -
DREW, Fredk Head Married M 28 1873 Butchers Labourer
Paignton Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Rhoda Wife Married F 27 1874
Totnes Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Fredk J Son Single M 6 1895
Paignton Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Frank A Son Single M 4 1897
Paignton Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Reginald A Son Single M 2 1899
Paignton Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Charles Hy Son Single M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Paignton Devonshire VIEW
DREW, Alice M Sister Single F 17 1884 General Servant
Paignton Devonshire VIEW

RG number: RG13 Piece: 2063 Folio: 77 Page: 27
Registration District: Totnes Sub District: Paignton
Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns with Marldon
Civil Parish: Paignton Municipal Borough:
Address: Colley End, Paignton County: Devonshire


Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Drew Frederick Totnes 5b 412
Mugford Rhoda Totnes 5b 412

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Aug 2011 23:08

I wonder if the family found by Flick in 1891 is the same as the one I found in 1881?

Susan

Susan Report 2 Aug 2011 23:23

i am not sure?? He seems correct by the age etc but the other members of the family dont?
I ordered a birth cert for a William Henry Mugford August 8th 1875 but the parents are Robert Dart Mugford and Jane Mugford formerly Matthews born in Brixham. Dont think it is the right ones as the marriage cert of William with Jane Williams shows his father as William Mugford...but then how do i know that is the same william as in the 1911 census??
Frustrating

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Aug 2011 09:12

What os his father's occupation?
Jan

Susan

Susan Report 3 Aug 2011 09:28

His father was a labourer and he was a labourer.
Both born Paignton/totnes area i think.
Sue

Susan

Susan Report 3 Aug 2011 13:55

Thanks for the advise...i have removed this from the new thread and added to this old one.

I am trying to trace my grandmothers father. He is listed on the eldest childs birth cert as the father...Queenie Violet May Westaway 1906. The other 7 children he had with my gr grandmother Mabel Ellen Westaway 1883 all have his name listed but not under fathers name.
They appear on the 1911 census as husband and wife and the three children born up to that date..Queenie 1906, Doris 1908 and William 1910 all are down as his children. Mabel and William never married as i think he was already married as in 1901 he appears on the census married to Jane Williams.
Mabel married a Thomas Fey in 1937 so i think William must have died before that date. Any help as to who he was would be great. I think his father was a William Mugford.
Thankyou
Sue