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Hi

I am having huge problems finding people on the census with the surname Burness - the one I am trying to find at the moment is:

Richard Burness - Born 1829 in Shoreditch (London), he married Ann Porter on 13 March 1854 and had two children Louisa born 1854 and William James born 1856, but the only census I have found him on is the 1841 cenus

Any help is appreciated

Removing that because it is the wrong one. Your Richard was a cabinet maker. There was another child

Richard Burness
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 9 Nov 1869
Father's Name: Richard Burness
Mother's Name: Ann Burness
Parish: St Chad, Haggerston
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

Hi again Astra

Thanks for looking - unfortunately this isn't him, he is the brother of Caroline who was on the other thread you previously looked at for me - his mum and dad are Jacob and Mary

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Aaaah thanks Astra - they had a long time between him William - wonder if there was perhaps more?

I will have to have a look

Have you any evidence that they are all still alive and in this country by 1861?
Thanks

Added:
OK, Astra added extra information, so they are.

For reference, Jacob and Mary feature in other thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1227914

Thanks Michael - didn't think to link the threads

Isn't this your Richard's widow??
Name: Ann Burness
Spouse Name: Thomas Edward Hobart
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Oct 1865
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Porter
Spouse Father Name: Charles Hobart

Maureen

Daughter Louisa:
1881 England Census
Louisa Purness Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Greenwich County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 10 The Circus N 1 Ward
Occupation: General Serv Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Greenwich West ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Augustus E. Fuller 47
Eliza Fuller 50
Ernest Fuller 19
Hellen Hoidon 27
Louisa Purness 27
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 721; Folio: 94; Page: 27; GSU roll: 1341168.

Hi Maureen

don't think it can be because Richard and Ann had their son Richard in 1869

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Thanks Patricia

I wish they would transcribe the names correct I think this is the reason why I cannot find them as Burness - saying that I don't suppose the way it was written does look like Burness

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Hi everyone I have just realised what the time is and I really have to start the dinner - would much rather be doing this though

I will be back later today - I just didn't want you all to think that I didn't appreciate you looking for me

THANKS
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Louisa in 1881 definitely looks like Purness - only I cannot see any Louisa Purness elsewhere, so think it must be the correct one.

Thanks Patricia

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If Richard Burness, 1869, is not correct, then Hobart looks interesting:
1861 England Census
Thomas Hobart
Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 207
Thomas Hobart 28
Ann Hobart 27
Richard Hobart 8 (previous marriage of Thomas?)
Louisa Hobart 7 (ex Burness?)
William J Hobart 5 (ex Burness?)
Thomas E Hobart 11 Mo (joint child?)
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 249; Folio: 153; Page: 36; GSU roll: 542599.

I think that's right,Patricia. The baptism in 1869 has the same address as:
1871 census transcription details for: 32 Laburnam Ter, St Leonard Shoreditch

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 466 Folio: 23 Page: 40


Reg. District: Shoreditch Sub District: Haggerstone, West
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Laburnam Ter, St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
HOBART, Ann Head F 37 1834 Middlesex
HOBART, Louisa Daughter F 16 1855 Middlesex
HOBART, William Son M 14 1857 Middlesex
HOBART, Thomas Son M 11 1860 Middlesex
HOBART, Ann Daughter F 9 1862 Middlesex
HOBART, Charles Son M 5 1866 Middlesex

I'm almost afraid to look and see if Ann marries again!

Maureen

Edit: I wonder if the 8 yr old Richard in 1861 is the one who's baptised in 1869??

Remotely possible death:
Deaths Sep 1857
Burnys Richard Whitechapel 1c 265

Hi Maureen

Sorry I'm confused - Ann Hobart was Ann Burness (married to Richard)?

It gets so confusing with the same first names and the 2nd and 3rd marriages etc
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