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I see you are feeing better already Fans !!!!!!!!!

Dea x

Jonesey Report as Abuse Yesterday
JC, You are of course entitled to your opinion.
(Adds from Fan...And Boy,does Sweetpea have some!)

Perhaps you might have a different one were you a resident of the UK and more or less every aspect of your private and business life these days was dictated by dictats from an unelected court in a foreign land.

Im with you Mr Jones....Get in there...

I also think that ALL Canucks(and any other furriners) should stick to rummaging in their own Laws/Goverments and Dick a wotsits over there and leave us to argue the Toss about ours to us British born and bred
Do we go wagging fingers and giving opinions on their things over there?
No we dont...

I now step down from my soapbox and have had my say so I am one happy happy Woman in Wales
..........Cos.............
The Yes vote is well on its way to beating the no vote by 2 to 1.....................
Going to skip down the road to the Quacks later to celebrate..

Hmmm,make that stagger up the hill to him maybe..;)

I have had my say now and will not be responding to any comments that may pop up..

Have yourselves a nice day now...................Dont you just hate how that American saying is used so much here...I do.......Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Hear, Hear Fans

Now can we get back to talking rubbish on this thread please lol

ja...x

As one of them ferigners I wonder about what is happening in Wales

"A woman in South Wales ravaged a bakery upon learning they were out of her favourite cupcakes, according to British media reports.

The shop's owner, Sally Dodd, 43, told the U.K. Daily Mail the woman threw herself on the floor "ranting and raving" when she found out they were out of the popular "sweet tooth fairy" cupcakes.

"The woman went absolutely ballistic when she was told we didn't have the cupcake flavour she wanted," Dodd told the British tabloid. "She didn't even wait for us to tell her that if she waited we could bake some fresh cupcakes for her."

The woman reportedly ran around the counter, grabbed Dodd by the hair, and proceeded to smash all the glass display units, causing more than in $600 damage.

"You expect a certain amount of risk running a bar or a pub but not in a cupcake shop," said Dodd.

Police are hoping video surveillance footage will help them find the culprit."

Robert

Was it our Fans?? we will have to wait for the cctv footage on crimewatch now

ja..x

Ravaged??a Bakery??................Hmmm,wonder how that one works...


And I say YET again that I live in WEST Wales..NOT...SOUTH Wales....

So it was prob AnnOgg,she lives in South Wales....

Gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Going to Small Town to do some shopping,right out of almost everything.Wish people would stop eating everything I buy......Sigh

Robert, that story came from the Daily Mail....and you believe it ;)


Now if it was the backy shop then it could well have been our Fans


You wouldnt believe the converstation we have just had in the office. It was all about finding the culprit that 'decorates' the toilet once a day...and we were eating lunch

I wouldnt have minded so much if they had left out the detail...ewee

Grumble, grumble, grumble.

Go and buy some cupcakes to cheer yerself up Fans.


I saw another FBG zooming past our house yesterday. Fortunately, it didn't stop!

Jonesey

Just to put the European prospective on car insurance - here in Spain as in most other European countries - it is the car that carries the insurance - not the driver

So any person over 25 can drive my full comp insured motorcar - providing they have a valid driving licensed

Gender is not considered whatsoever - though being Spain - if you have changed your car from original manufactured you pay more - so add a tow bar and it is a "unique" model and you pay more

My same car imported free of tax - full comp
Insurance - any driver (as is norm) with only 40% NCB protected ( the max permitted in Spain ) was just under half price - using Linea Directa - Direct Line - now changed insurers to Gibralter based - Lloyds under written

25% of British premium paid 9 years ago

Renes

I thought the driver had to have their own insurance to drive other cars Renes

Or is this spain you are talking about?

ja...x

I am talking about Spain - although my brother and sister in France have exactly the same system as here

Also every driver has to have eye test and medical and coordination test ever 5 years when you reach 45 yrs of age - also when stopped by Guardia - they ask to see I'D and Driving licenses - normally not Car Insurance

Although the car insurance docs must always be in car along with car tax pmt Receipt stamped as paid from bank


Renes

"This is not a political forum so this will be my last word on the subject."

Ah yes. The claiming of the last word. Works every time, does it?


"Canadian people are not subjected to laws imposed upon them by their trading partners"

Spoken like a true Republican.

Laws made in order to comply with international agreements are not "imposed" by anybody other than the state that made the international agreement.

Hi Renes,

That is quite an interesting approach, insuring the vehicle rather than the driver. Are any restrictions or excesses applied to drivers or owners who have a bad record of accidents or claims? How are things such as business use of the vehicle dealt with?

Cost wise based upon your experience it certainly sounds cheap when compared to UK rates.

I read recently that some Eastern Europeans who now live in the UK continue to insure their cars in their former home country rather than in the UK as the premiums are only a small fraction of the cost of insuring in the UK. Apparently to be able to do this they need only to prove that they arrived in the UK within the past 12 months. The proof they usually use is a boarding or landing pass obtained on a trip on a cross channel ferry. Sneaky perhaps but it serves the purpose.

As it happens my car insurance is up for renewal from midnight tonight. I have the same vehicle as Jax owns, I am retired, have held a clean full driving licence for over 40 years, use the vehicle for social, domestic and pleasure purposes only, drive less than 5,000 miles per year, have 65% no claims discount. My renewal quote is £368 (439 Euro's).

You have a Jeep Jonesey? mine did less than a 1000 last year must get it adapted so I can drive it

Thanks for your add on that thread JC thought my find was invisable lol

ja...x

You know, if anyone will notice, I didn't actually express an opinion about the ruling in question. And I'm certainly not the one who brought the issue into this thread.

I suggested that if anyone wanted to know the reasons for it, they read it. And I offered information to assist in that endeavour.

What I have done is point out that there *are* reasons for things. And that international agreements signed by *anyone's* government, and the laws their governments make as a result, are not "laws" "imposed" by anyone else. And sometimes the situations are very complex.

Obviously there are reasons why anyone's government enters into international agreements. Sometimes they are bad reasons. Canada's free trade agreement with the US and Mexico has benefited big corporations on both sides and been questionable in many other regards. There may be very good reasons for opposing various such arrangements.

Calling the agreements one's own government makes "laws imposed" by foreigners, and institutions that administer them "idiots", isn't genuine discussion, it's anti-democratic ranting.

De nada, jax. ;)

I was reading through and getting ready to take a stab at finding the birth under another surname ... born before marriage, born to a previous marriage ... and there you'd done it already!

Halo polish for me then

I wondered why that surname stuck out when I looked earlier...it was because I saw it on the 1911 but it did'nt register straight away

ja...x

Jonesey

We have just introduced the point system here for driving infractions - paid for and "suggested" by EU - bye the bye- Spain being Spain - only obeys EU "laws"if the EU pays for it - when I first moved here you could smoke in the supermarkets !!! We have just acted on no smoking in public places - but give it three months and we will stop "obeying " - as we did last year - or maybe the year before -

We have a massive problem of a vast majority of drivers do so without licences - it costs a min of 1500 euros to learn to drive and the - practical - before getting in a car takes six months of classes - then you learn to drive a car - so mostly no one bothers

Don't think insurers have got as far as bad drivers yet - at the moment the requirement is for - driving licence - -

The current EU craze here is cycle lanes - we are having all our roads re done at bast expense in order to make a cycle lane - all paid for by EU

We love the EU here --- when my Danish friends come over we always buy them a meal to thank for all the money the give Spain via EU - lol

We even had EU money to build planters all over our village and renovate the area in front of my house - and put up railings and seats

Beautiful thanks you all

So is driving spain like the U.S ?....get a licence at 16/17 and orf you go without passing a test it seems....could be wrong but thats how I see it

ja...x

And thanks to the EU for being able to live in Spain 365 days a year?

I don't get to live in Florida ...

Equalizing the economies of trading partners is generally seen as a good thing for the economies of the wealthier partners -- the poorer partners are then more able to buy goods and services from the wealthier ones, and the poorer ones aren't selling goods and services abroad cheap and undercutting the wealthier ones.