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Sorry I deleted it! Thanks for finding me here.
Yes this is my Great nan.
The reason for me asking the question about Frank Hayes was because there wasn't a Fathers name on her daughter (my nans) birth cert. but on my nans marriage cert, fathers name was written as Frank Hayes? thats where my confusion is. The only family I have to ask dont know anything so I was hoping to 'solve' the puzzle.
Thankyou and everyone else.

Posting this on here as your other thread has gone. Possible death, so doesn't look like she remarried.


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Elizabeth Mary Green
Name: Elizabeth Mary Green
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1885
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct/Nov/Dec 1982
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 0609

Thankyou very much!

On the 1881 transcript the name is written Pridgson, someone has simply mistaken an e for an s.
Happens all the time.

As there never has been a standardised spelling of names anything is possible when it comes to names being recorded by others. It is worth remembering that a large part of the population were illiterate right up until the end of the 19th century. Records about people would be made by registrars, church ministers and census enumerators. If you were illiterate then you were not in a position to question what was being written or how it was being spelled.

Thankyou again! I see on this ref. Pridgeon is spelt Pridgean is this a common mistake? How exciting, on Elizabeths birth cert. the address says 31Jeffreys street Pancras?

This looks promising:

1851:
Name: Frances A Ellis
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Milton, Scotland (Ignore Scotland an obvious transcription error)

Civil parish: Milton Next Sittingbourne
Town: Milton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Milton
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Ellis 50 born Scotland, Mariners wife (Age 30 on original)
William Ellis 10
John Ellis 7
Frances A Ellis 3
Robert Ellis 10 Mo
John Ellis 7 (Mary Ann's nephew born Ipswich, Suffolk)

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
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ELLIS Frances Ann Milton 5 425

Ah .. looks like she lied about her age in 1881.

Could this be her ...

Births Mar 1848

ELLIS Frances Ann - Milton 5 425

1891 just for reference:

Name: Rich D Pridgean
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Father
Spouse's name: Frances A
Gender: Male
Where born: Honiton, Devon, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Cavendish Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rebekah Bashford 59
Henry E Bashford 56
Harry E Goode 23
Kate L Goode 21
Edward Goode 65
Rich D Pridgean 31
Frances A Pridgean 42 (It is shown as 42 on original)
Henry J J Pridgean 9
William R Pridgean 7
Elizabeth N Pridgean 6
Thomas Passey 23
Thomas Venables 20
Arthur W Bacon 30
Mary A Bacon 30
Arthur A Bacon 4
Nellie Bacon 2
John Fraser 33

Birthplace for the Pridgeon children is shown as Kentish Town

Sorry written on Elizabeths birth cert.Mothers name is definatley Frances Ann :o)

Only birth I can see for Milton but her name is Frances Lydia not Ann ???
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Births Dec 1853

ELLIS Frances Lydia - Milton 2a 505

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Is this her first marriage ... No Ann on here !

Marriages Jun 1869

BROAD Stephen - Portsea I. 2b 744
Ellis Frances - Portsea 2b 744

This is brilliant thankyou for all the above and the added info for Frances' father.
I am hoping to make a link with someone connected to Elizabeths siblings.
I can not ever remember meeting family of my Ggrandmothers neither can my dad.

This cert will confirm Richard's parents

Births Jun 1859

Pridgeon Richard - Honiton 5b 25

This is them in 1881.

You probably have this but put here for reference of ages etc.

Richard PRIDGSON Head M Male 21 Honiton, Devon, England Cabman
Francis A. PRIDGSON Wife M Female 29 Milton, Kent, England


Dwelling 16 Jeffreys St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

Name: Richard Pridgeon
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Frances Ann Brood
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Feb 1881
Parish: St Thomas, Agar Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Henry Read Pridgeon (Occ Registrar of births)

Frances was a widow. Her father is named as James Ellis, Sea captain.

1881:
Name: Henry Read Pridgeon
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Honiton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: King St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Registrar Of Births & Death (Munic)

Registration district: Honiton
Sub-registration district: Honiton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Read Pridgeon 61
Elizabeth Pridgeon 53
William Edward Petley 18 stepson
Robert James Petley 14 stepson

Hi. I have a Birth cert of Elizabeth Mary Pridgeon which has given me the names of her parents Richard and Frances in 1885.
Someone had also sent me the name of Richards father. Henry Read Pridgeon I am hoping this is right.

Thankyou

What certificates do you already have ?

If you have this marriage cert can you give us the fathers' details

Marriages Mar 1881

BROAD Frances Ann Pancras 1b 15
PRIDGEON Richard Pancras 1b 15

I am just trying to have another look at the info I have on my Nans side of the family. It is family history I am after really.
My Great nans name was Elizabeth Mary Pridgeon,born 15 March 1885. fathers name is RICHARD PRIDGEON mothers name Frances Ann (late Broad and formerley ELLIS)
Siblings of Elizabeths are HENRY, WILLIAM and CHARLOTTE.
Looking forward to any information however little.
Possibly all born in Kentish Town.