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Caroline Hardy Chamberlain

Could someone please look up the marriage banns on Ancestry for the above person. I am hoping she married William Baker who was the son of Samuel Baker.

Thank you
Trish

will take a look

Name: Caroline Hardy Chamberlain
Spouse Name: William Baker
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Oct 1827
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden

says with the consent of Daniel Chamberlain the natural & Lawful father of Caroline
witnesses Sarah & Daniel Chamberlain
sounds like Caroline was a minor

Groom's Name: William Baker
Groom's Birth Date: 1806
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Caroline Hardy Chamberlain
Bride's Birth Date: 1808
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 15 Oct 1827
Marriage Place: Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Chamberlain
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01606-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 413275
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Thank you both for your help, very much appreciated.

I thought Caroline Hardy Chamberlain's mother was Louisa Georgina Hardy, but how do I prove that she was (or maybe that she wasn't) ?

After seeing the information on Carolines marriage banns it said the witnesses were Daniel (father) & Sarah Chamberlain. I thought Sarah could have been a sister, but I have now found a reference to a marriage of a Daniel Chamberlain and Sarah Field in 1795, so I am now wondering if the information I was given from someone elses tree about Louisa being Carolines mother is correct.

Any advice of where to go from here would be appreciated.

Trish

well, you need to see if you can find Caroline's baptism


do you know if she was born in London??



sylvia

according to the 1851 Census, she was born about 1807 in St Marylebone, Middlesex (London)


is that correct??


sylvia

This is from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org ............ the Mormon site.

This is an EXTRACTED record taken from the actual parish register


CAROLINE HARDY CHAMBERLAIN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 30 AUG 1808

Christening: 29 OCT 1809 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Parents:
Father: DANIEL CHAMBERLAIN Family
Mother: SARAH

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C035245 1807 - 1810 0580907 Film 6903614 Film
C035245 1811 - 1814 0580908 Film NONE




I have tried to see the baptism on the London Records on ancestry ...... but it does not seem to be there.


Always doubt other people's trees unless you are certain that they are meticulous researchers!



sylvia

Possble siblings for Caroline ..... parents Daniel Chamberlain and Sarah

WILLM. CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Birth: 06 JAN 1796
Christening:- 20 MAR 1796 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England


MATILDA HARDY CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Birth: 12 JAN 1812
Christening: 06 FEB 1813 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England


SUSA. HARDY CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Birth: 16 JUL 1797
Christening: 03 SEP 1797 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England


SUSANNA ANN CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Christening: 24 JAN 1802 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England


JAS. HARDY CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Birth: 14 JUL 1799
Christening: 15 SEP 1799 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England


SARAH CHAMBERLAIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Birth: 20 DEC 1804
Christening: 17 FEB 1805 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England





sylvia

From the I G I

an Extracted record


DANIEL CHAMBERLAIN Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH FIELD Family
Marriage: 23 NOV 1795 Saint Marylebone, London, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M035241 1792 - 1796 0564398 Film 6903615 Film





sylvia

This is the only baptism of any of those children to show on the London Baptisms on ancestry




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Matilda Hardy Chamberlain
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Feb 1813
Father's Name: Daniel Chamberlain
Mother's Name: Sarah Chamberlain
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Born:- 12 January 1812
Address:- St Mary-le-Bone
Father's occupation:- Sexton of St Mary-le-Bone



I guess the records for the others have not been transcribed yet




sylvia

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Daniel Chamberlain, Bachelor
Spouse Name: Sarah Field, Spinster
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Nov 1795
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

Witnesses:- Benjamin Hardy and John Willock


John Willock is a witness at another marriage on the same page ...... so might be a so-called "professional witness", one who received a small amount of money to be a witness



But note the name of the other witnesss.




sylvia

Thank you so much Sylvia for all the very helpful information.

I know what you are saying about information from other peoples trees, that is why I like to try and find evidence to support the names.

I am so pleased Benjamin Hardy has shown up as a witness at the marriage. I will now try to find where he fits in, if I can.

Thank you once again for all your help, it is very much appreciated.

Trish

you're very welcome



sylvia

so the first Susa. Hardy Chamberlain died


from ancestry


London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1921

Name: Susannah Hardy Chamberlain
Birth Year: abt 1797
Age: 14/12
Church: Whitefield's Memorial Church
Burough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 9 Sep 1798


On the actual image it says St Mary-le-Bone, but i tisn't clear whether that is the district where they lived or the church.



?????? I wonder if this is the second Susannah Hardy Chamberlain


London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1921

Name: Susanh Chamberlin
Birth Year: abt 1801
Age: 20/12
Church: Whitefield's Memorial Church
Burough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 14 Aug 1803

Again, it says St Mary-le-Bone on the image

I went to the first page of the record and it showed this:-
No 2 The Register of Funerals in the Chapel and Burying Ground Tottenham Court Road




sylvia

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: Matilda Hardy Chamberlain
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 12 Mar 1813
Age: child
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Address:- St Mary-le-Bone




At least James lived longer!


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: James Hardy Chamberlain
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 24 May 1864
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Death Date: 24 May 1864
Parish: Highgate Cemetery of St James, Swains Lane, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex

From image:-
Address:- 36 University Street, St Pancras

I have found James H Chamberlain on the 1851 and 1861 Censuses .... he was an Attorney-at-Law and a Solicitor




sylvia

??????????
the correct William??


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: William Chamberlain
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 14 Jan 1822
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex



Possibly not



sylvia

Thank you for the extra information.

I have looked on the national archives website and found documents are available with the names Daniel Chamberlain and James Hardy Chamberlain on them. The addresses on the census returns are also mentioned.

The only thing is I don't really understand them and wonder with James being a solicitor if his name is appearing for legal reasons and that they are not really going to help me get more family information.

What are your thoughts?

I typed in James+Hardy+Chamberlain to get the results.

Trish