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You got it,Margaret.
(Your folks aren't from Cumbria,are they? Maybe it was the same fellow!!)

Maureenxx

Oh, after you do that, Maureen, can you tell me who my gt. grandmother's father was?

LOL!! Such compliments!

Kev-I'll get on it right after I figure out who my own grandmother's father was.

Maureen

Maureen, can you give your crystal ball a little rub and find out who Harvey George Wykes's Father is (His mother Maria Wykes was a single parent and he took her surname) Now that WOULD be impessive !!! lol
Kev

I'm starting to think Maureen, you DO have a crystal ball with some of the info you have today!

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And there I was.... Thinking.... If only I had a crystal ball like Ginny & Maureen lol

Maureen, Do you know, somehow (in the past) I had managed to find that 1871 Census info, made a note of it to check it out and then forgot about it..... Duh..... its only when I relooked up my census stuff did I see it again ! How did it get transcribed so wrong ??

Ellen is a new child to my tree thanks.... I will research her some more

Ginny & Maureen, Thanks for all your help.... It is appreciated!
Kev

His occupation on the manifest is "Traveller",so the trip was likely job related.

Here he is in 1871 just in case you didn't have it:
1871
Name: Harry Crakes
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Crakes 26 Occ:Commercial Clerk
Sarah Crakes 26
Hubert Crakes 8 months
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3094; Folio: 37; Page: 23;

Is this one of the daughters?

Name: Ellen Maria Wykes
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Spouse Name: Henry Charles Stephens
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Apr 1908
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: George Harvey Wykes Occ:Commercial traveller (dec'd)
Spouse Father Name: William Stephens

Maureen

Kevin

We can’t answer why anyone went anywhere...we are good, but not that good!

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Very Strange !!! But interesting.....

Thanks Ginny,
I have meetings this afternoon so need to do "the work thing" will look at all this when home this evening...
Oh, one other thing, if this is the same Harvey that went to NY.... did he travel alone ???

Update.... home now, checked out the family... and yes I do have all that info in my tree.

The only thing that bugs me is Why (if it is him on the ship) did he travel to NY and then return just 2 years or so later, and did he travel alone.... is there any mention of his wife Sarah Jane on the Ships list ???

Thanks again
Kev

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Harvey George Wykes
Name: Harvey George Wykes
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 58
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 332 (click to see others on page)

Sarah is a widow here

1901 England Census
about Cecil Wykes
Name: Cecil Wykes
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Guest
Gender: Male
Where born: Nuneaton

Civil parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Household Members: Name Age
William S Davies 68
Hubert Wykes 36
Jessie Wykes 31
Mabel Hale 16
William Heale 15
Hubert Wyles 9
George Wykes 3
Cecil Wykes 6 weeks
Sarah Wykes 56
Cecil Wykes 26
Nellie Wykes 12

1881 England Census
about Cecil H. Wykes
Name: Cecil H. Wykes
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harrey G.
Mother's Name: Sarah J.
Gender: Male
Where born: Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 325 Dudley Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harrey G. Wykes 36
Sarah J. Wykes 36
Hubert H. Wykes 10
Frank G. Wykes 8
Cecil H. Wykes 6
Lavina Shalton 16

Yes that's him Margaret, I have that info thanks for looking tho.....

Is this him?
1861 census
Bond St., Nuneaton, Warwickshire
James Wykes, head, 65, boot & shoe maker
Fanny, wife, 58
Maria, dau, 36, silk weaver
Mary, dau, 24, silk weaver
***Harvey George, grandson, 16, school teacher
All born Nuneaton.

Hi Ginny,
Harvey George Wykes was my Gt Gt Grandfather, born 1843/4 in Nuneaton, Bapt 28/07/1844.
He was born out of wedlock to Maria Wykes (b1824)
I only have Census retuns for 1851 & 1861 and they place him in Nuneaton, Married to Sarah Jane Sands on the 31/05/1866 (his occupation at this time was a school teacher).
They had a daughter Annie Lilian Wykes 1887 (born in nuneaton) who was my Gt Grandmother who I knew very well as she lived to the ripe old age of 99.
Now my reckoning is if its him, he went to USA in 1884 but returned by 1887 ??
Thanks
Kev

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Harvey G Wykes
Name: Harvey G Wykes
Arrival Date: 28 Jul 1884
Birth Year: abt 1844
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Alaska



Do you have any other info on such as family?

If some kind soul, with the ability to do a look up for me on the "New York Passanger Lists 1820 to 1957" for a Harvey George Wykes (born 1843/4) I would be forever in their debt.... Thanks Kev
P.S. I think he also returned to the UK so could be 2 entries... Ta!