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Thanks for all your Help Allyson

Thanks for all of you greatfully appreciated Allyson

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Family stories have a habit of being exaggerated if not a complete fabrication.

Elizabeth's birth ???

Groom's Name: Joseph Fry
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Gurney
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1800
Marriage Place: Norwich Mm, Norfolk, England
Groom's Father's Name: William Storrs Fry
Groom's Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Bride's Father's Name: John Gurney
Bride's Mother's Name: Catharine
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01386-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 811719
Reference Number: Rg 1030 P9
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Possibility for 1911.


MANNING, Charles William Head Married M 44 1867 Grocer And Provision Merchant Dawlish Devon VIEW
MANNING, Elizabeth Jane Wife Married
19 years F 45 1866 Assist In The Business Cheriton Bishop Devon VIEW
MANNING, Thomas Son M 18 1893 Apprentice Ironmongery Torquay VIEW
MANNING, William Son M 13 1898 School Taunton VIEW
MANNING, John Son M 10 1901 School Trowbridge VIEW
MANNING, Norman Son M 7 1904 School Bristol VIEW

Registration District:
Axbridge Sub District:
Burnham Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Lympsham

Address:
Brent View Boat Lane Lympsham Weston - S Mare County:
Somersetshire

Was he born in Ireland ????


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MANNING, Thomas
Address: 22 Mulberry Street Liverpool


MANNING, Michael Head Married M 50 1861 Cab Driver Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, Mary Wife Married
25 years F 44 1867 Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, James Son Single M 18 1893 Van Driver Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, Delia Daughter Single F 16 1895 Nil Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Van Boy Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, Michael Son M 14 1897 At School Ireland Galway VIEW
MANNING, Thomas Son M 12 1899 At School England Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MANNING, Norah Daughter F 10 1901 At School England Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MANNING, John Son M 6 1905 At School England Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MANNING, Robert Son M 3 1908 England Liverpool Lanc VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22187 Reference:
RG14PN22187 RG78PN1313 RD453 SD3 ED13 SN47

Registration District:
Liverpool Sub District:
Abercromby Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Liverpool

Address:
22 Mulberry Street Liverpool County:
Lancashire

So this will be his death

Thomas Manning
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1892
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Weston-Super-Mare
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 1838

I know my grand Thomas Manning died in early march 1976 two or three weeks before my daughter was born but i know little else except he was Catholic and the children all bought up as Catholic but Rosina was a Quaker and if stories are true she was related to the Chocolate people who then go back to Elizabeth Fry Nee Gurney who was the Prison Reformist and her mother was a Bell and her Grandmother was a Barclay of the Bank dysnasty. Hope this helps Sorry its so vague allyson

Can't locate any other marriages for Thomas Joseph but if you get the marriage certificate to Rosina it will tell you whether or not he was widowed at the time of their marriage. If that is Rosina's death then it looks unlikely that he married again after he had married her unless they divorced and she kept his name.

Allyson has multiple threads on all boards regarding Mannings and Fry.

Allyson, it would be best to order the 1923 marriage cert and find out Thomas's fathers name and then search from that.



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Rosina's death?

Rosina Agnes Manning
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1990
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: West Super Mare
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 22
Page: 1297

You have posted this twice Allyson.........please can you delete the other thread.

1911


FRY, John Walter Head Married M 32 1879 Milk Deliveryman Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Louisa Wife Married
13 years F 35 1876 Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Rosina Agnes Daughter F 13 1898 School Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, John Walter Son M 11 1900 School Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Lilian Daughter F 8 1903 Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Winifred Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Bath Somerset VIEW
FRY, Reginald Brother Single M 26 1885 Plumber Bath Somerset VIEW
BROWER, William Grandfather Widower M 57 1854 Retired Bootmaker Bampton Devonshire VIEW

Registration District:
Bath Sub District:
Walcot Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Bath

Address:
9 Morford Street Bath County:
Somersetshire

Please can you give some details about where and when they were born?

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)

Fry Rosina A Manning Bath 5c 921
Manning Thomas J Fry Bath 5c 921

For info only

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
Manning Thomas J Fry Bath 5c 921

Thomas Joseph was married to my Grandmother Rosina Agnes Fry but my aunt also told me he had been married 3 times can this be correct? if so to who where and when and were ther any children i need help please!! thanks