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sylvia

Hi

Thanks so much Sylvia and Ivy.

I really think I have to follow the Maharah trail as this seems to fit so I think I will spend this weekend following this up.

Thank you all so much for the help you provide - I am not new to the family history hobby but I do feel that I am quite behind in where I can look for things etc. but thanks to the people on here they have always guided me well.

Very much appreciated!!!

:-) :-) :-D :-D

Hi

Thanks so much Sylvia and Ivy.

I really think I have to follow the Maharah trail as this seems to fit so I think I will spend this weekend following this up.

Thank you all so much for the help you provide - I am not new to the family history hobby but I do feel that I am quite behind in where I can look for things etc. but thanks to the people on here they have always guided me well.

Very much appreciated!!!

:-) :-) :-D :-D

Looking for Mah* Singh in 1891, there is just one entry - the lad is about the right age and the right place to be considered the possible father in 1901:

Name: Maharah Singh
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: India

Civil parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 26

Piece: 22
Folio: 46
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gray 62 head born Ireland (clerk in holy orders)
Elizth M Gray (age perhaps blotted out at a later date?) daughter born India, British subject
William R Gray 23 son born Wigton, Cumberland (tutor)
Maharah Singh 12
Thamshin Singh 11 - boarder (both these brothers are British subjects)
(looking at the image, this forename is difficult to read, but may be Shamshir?)
Margaret Griffin 17 -servant
Susan Griffin 19 - servant

don't know where Spurway came from in that Public Tree


This seems to be the marriage of Rowland ....................

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)

BELL Regina Mary Edmonton 3a 838
Neilson Roland Edmonton 3a 838
NEILSON Rowland Edmonton 3a 838


AHA!!


Regina was a widow


Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)

Bell Adrian Freshney Shoreditch 1c 227
Spurway Regina Mary Shoreditch 1c 227



Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)

Bell Adrian Freshney 26 Edmonton 3a 266





sylvia

Hi all

WOW!!!

Thank you so much for all the trouble you have gone to. I don't know where to start now!!

All very interesting.

Thanks so much. :-D :-D :-D :-D

and Rowland was also Alice's son, and brother to Florence and Phillis!


1881 Census

Name: Roland Neilson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Alice Neilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 22 Tottenham CT Rd

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court

Alice Neilson 25 Dress and Mantle Maker
Florence Neilson 4
Roland Neilson 2
Phillis Neilson

I was thinking Phillis M D Neilson on the 1911 Census was also born in 1900


and along the lines of a change of name for Alva


but I don't think so!!!


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Phyllis Maud D Neilson

Name: Phyllis Maud D Neilson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 542 (click to see others on page)


and she died young


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Phyllis M D Neilson

Name: Phyllis M D Neilson
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Age at Death: 22
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 378


BUT


a Public Family Tree on ancestry says that Phyllis Maud D Neilson was the daughter of Rowland Neilson and Regina Mary Spurway


???????????????????????????????????????????





sylvia

Do note however that Alva's birth is registered as NEILSON, not Singh



This indicates that Florence was not married to father Mahalah Singh


and I don't see a re-registration in the name of Singh




sylvia

Gins posted ...............

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Alva Mahalah Neilson Singh
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 16 Jun 1903
Father's Name: Mahalah Singh
Mother's Name: Florence Singh
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kentish Town St Martin
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers


Births Mar 1900
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Neilson Alva Mahatab S Marylebone 1a 575



I looked at the image of the baptism in the Parish Register, and there is something a little strange


In the left margin is a handwritten notation "at hospital"


Address:- N.W. Hospital

no occupation given for father


There are 4 baptisms with the notation "At hospital" in the margin, entered one after the other ................... and out of sequence with other baptisms!


It looks as these 4, and one Private Baptism, were entered into the Register at a later date, as though whoever had done the baptisms "out of the church" had forgotten to enter them..

The sequence is ...................

regular baptism in church ....... Nov 18 1903
baptism at hospital ....... May 16, 1903; June 16 1903; July 4 1903: and Oct 5 1903
Private baptism ...... Nov 8 1903
regular baptism in church ....... Nov 22 1903




Now, Alva's birth was registered as March 1900 ........ but she was not baptised until 1903, in hospital. I wonder if that means she was seriously ill??




sylvia

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Alva Mahalah Neilson Singh
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 16 Jun 1903
Father's Name: Mahalah Singh
Mother's Name: Florence Singh
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kentish Town St Martin
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers




Births Mar 1900
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Neilson Alva Mahatab S Marylebone 1a 575

Was looking at this earlier but no suggestions

The family seem to be listed as Neilson on 1881,1891 and 1901 census


1911 Think this is mother and one daughter
NEILSON, Alice Lilian Head Widow F 54 1857 Wholesale Dress Making France Resident VIEW
NEILSON, Phillis Daughter Single F 30 1881 Assisting In Business London Marylebone VIEW
NEILSON, Phillis M D Grandddaughter F 11 1900 School Middlesex Edmonton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3364 Reference:
RG14PN3364 RG78PN126 RD39 SD3 ED42 SN10

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
West Croydon Enumeration District:
42 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
22 Ecclesbourne Road Thronton Heath



1891
Name: Alice L Foster
[Alice L Neilson]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Herdspurpornt, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Great Clacton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Clacton on Sea
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Thorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1400
Folio: 78
Page Number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Alice L Foster 36
Florence Foster 13 - Neilson
Roland Foster 12 - Neilson
Phillis Foster 10 - Neilson
Lillian C Foster 5 - Neilson

Hi

Back in 2010 a very helpful person found my relatives, Florence (24) and Alice Neilson (Nelson) (44) living in Essex in 1901 with a one year old child, Alma Singh, listed as grandson.

I have since tried to find out more information on Alma but to no avail. I can't find a birth, marriage or death.

Any suggestions as to where I go next?

Thank you so much for looking again. It has really helped me.

Well, they aren't listed as NELSON

Name: Florence Neilson
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Alsie L
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Great Clacton
Ecclesiastical parish: Clacton on Sea
Town: Great Clacton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England



Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Thorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Alsie L Neilson 44
Florence Neilson 24
Alma Singh 1 Grandson


2, Church Road

I found them on the 1901 census but I can't access the full transcripts.

You say you 'found' them.......please say where

Thanks very much for looking.

Nothing matching your info

I am hoping that someone could do a look up on the 1901 census for me please.

I have found my Florence L Nelson and her mother Alice L Nelson in Essex in 1901 and would like to find out the address and who else is in the household if possible. Alice is 44 and Florence is 24. Florence was born in London (Middlesex).

Thanks in advance.

Thanks in advance.