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Hi Rees,
Thanks so much for the update. Been off for a week "house and cat sitting" for OH's brother-with no internet. (nearly went into convulsions from withdrawal by Wednesday...).
God bless Dea for finding the 1911!!!! She's a whiz,that one. But ROLE? Really!!!!

Best,
Maureen

Maureen

Just to say huge thanks -- Baby Rose did survive and is listed with Rose Selina Kate Palmers sister----Ada Susan --- in 1911 --- who also was married to a Bailey

Have yet to find the relationship with Rose Selina -- Bailey and Ada Susan ---- but am actively searching for them now

Dea managed to find the 1911 records as husband was using his second name -- and Ada Susan birth place was mstranscribed

Brilliant is it not

So thanks Maureen --------much appreciated

Marriages Dec 1895
Bailey Edward Charles Christchurch 2b 1364
Palmer Ada Susan Christchurch 2b 1364


1911 Census
BAILEY, Charles Head Married M 37 1874 Carman Hants Pokesdown
BAILEY, Ada Wife Married 15 years F 39 1872 (Martinstown on image )!
BAILEY, William Son M 13 1898 School Hants Pokesdown
BAILEY, Evelyn Daughter F 11 1900 School Hants Pokesdown
BAILEY, Role Daughter F 6 1905 School London South Lambeth (Rose on image)
GOLLOP, Ethel Boarder Single F 25 1886 Luandress Dorset Canford

RG14PN5855 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED24 SN215
Christchurch Sub District: Bournemouth Enumeration District:
24 Parish: Bournemouth
Address: 5 Wilton Road Boscombe County:
Hampshire

1901 England Census
about Ada Bailey Name: Ada Bailey
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Baile
Where born: Dorchester, Dorset, England ***actually Martinstown +++
Civil parish: Bournemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Pokesdown St James
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 273
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bailey 27 Furniturer packer b. Hants., Bournemouth
Ada Bailey 29
William Bailey 3
Evelyn Bailey 1
Percival Bailey 55 father, widr. b Dorset, Verwood -
Rose Bailey 20 sister, b. Dorset, Broadway ************************
this is Rose Selina Kate Palmer
at 10, Wilton Place.
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1044; Folio: 100; Page: 42.


and her sister Rose was living with them in 1891 ---- ( I have all Broadway baptisms and am certain this is Rose Sellina Kate Palmer --- just written down incorrectñy ---

Maureen
Thanks for all your help - when I saw the census I realised I must have searched before for Frederick Bailey - possibly because of the marriage entry confusion - and have it in my files

Oh Well - copy certs next


Thank you

Renes

Hi Irene,
1911 census transcription details for: 12 Chapel Lane Wimborne

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN12261 RG78PN693 RD260 SD2 ED17 SN156


Reg. District: Wimborne Sub District: Wimborne
Parish: Wimborne Minster Enum. District: 17
Address: 12 Chapel Lane Wimborne
County: Dorsetshire
FOX, Frederick William Head Married M 42 1869 Tailor Fordingbridge Hants
FOX, Julia Wife Married
20 years F 41 1870 Hillbutts Dorset
BAILEY, Frederick Boarder Single M 33 1878 Salesman Horton Dorset


I really can't find anyone likely either.

I did wonder about Ada Rose as well. The certs would be interesting. Good luck.

Maureen

Hi Maureen

Thanks for looking at that entry - must confess I got sidetracked on

Deaths Dec 1904
BAILEY Ada Rose 0 Lambeth 1d 229 -

but her birth is listed as Births Mar 1904
Bailey Ada Rose Camberwell 1d 1039

But it still could be her daughter ´as they married in Sept qtr 1903 -

I think I may send for a cert - if I cannot find out anymore

Simply because the Palmers frequently used Ada to register and baptise their girls . then it is never ever used - her sister was Ada Susan - and Rose was her name and my Nan s- her sister in law -

If so it is really tragic - IF - her first daughter dies in Dec qtr and then she her self dies - lets hope Rose Doris K - did in deed survive

I have spent a couple of hours now looking for Frederick John Bailey - who i believe to be
Births Sep 1877
Bailey Frederick John Wimborne 5a 261

I found a John Bailey - Grandson of Esau Bailey in 1881
Born Cranborne Dorset - but although I found other Bailey s baptised at Cranborne - he was not listed and the records finish at 1879

There is an entry 1911 census for Frederick - BAILEY, Frederick 1878 33 M Wimborne Dorsetshire

But I cannot look at it - to see if any children are listed with him - if it is him

Can I please ask you to look for me - and would welcome your thoughts on the girls

Thank you for your help Maureen it is much appreciated

Renes

Irene,
Going out on a limb here,but I wonder if this is a child that survived???
Name: Rose Doris K Bailey
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 382

Name: Rose D K Bailey
Spouse Surname: Johnson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Registration district: Bournemouth
Registration county (inferred): Dorset
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1094
Spouse:Herbert H Johnson

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Rose Doris K Johnson
Name: Rose Doris K Johnson
Birth Date: 25 Oct 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1986
Age at death (estimated): 82
Registration district: South Warwickshire
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 363

I can't seem to find her in 1911,though.

Maureen

I know,Renes. I had a teary-eyed moment there for her.

Maureen

Maureen

Oh what a shock - just a couple of years after the marriage
not surprised in London - quite a few of Grandpa s brothers and sisters moved from Dorset - although many went back

Will look for any children and send for death cert

Thank you so very much Maureen

Renes

Not where I was expecting,but same person??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Rose Selina K Bailey
Name: Rose Selina K Bailey
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 24
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 218

Maureen

Jax

Just clearing up odd and ends on my tree - seem to remember I could not find any trace of any of them - when I had my FMP sub -

Thanks for looking sweetie

Renes

There are only the 3 names on ancestry too

jax

sorry revised my posting without refreshing first .took a look at the actual GRO page

Cant find them though on the 1911 census di they stay in Dorset?

Jax

No idea - not every page on Freebmd - have equal numbers of men to women

It depends how the registers are written up

Renes

wheres the other spouse? nah I cannot find them rene


jax

Shirley

Thank you - according to freebmd in their email to me - there are two men married on the same day !!!!!

It will be the same man I would think .even thouugh its listed under both spellings
will take a look for them on the 1911 as its nice to have the latest info on them

nudge - revised my heading

Rose Selina K Palmer b 1880 Broadwey Dorset

I have this marriage for Rose on freebmd
Marriages Sep 1903
BAILEY Frederick John Weymouth 5a 683
BAILY Frederick John Weymouth 5a 683
PALMER Rose Selina K Weymouth 5a 683
I thought this was a transcription error on the grooms name . but it is apparently true both men married on the same day

Can I please ask if a 1911 lookup could confirm who my Aunt married

Thank you

Irene