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Thank you for all your help, I think I will visit the Jack W Deciacco marriage in 1940, I'd written it down before when I was trawling the marriages but I didn't know who it was. It is odd that there is no death of a Jack Deciacco, unless he died in another counrty. It's all very confusing with the Catherine Darnell/Deciacco.

There are some anomalies ...

A Catherine Darnell married Attwater 1933 in Hartley Wintney -- obviously the one born there in 1906. Births to that marriage in Hampshire 1933, Wiltshire 1945 (no other mrriage to account, unless an Attwater to a Darnell who had been previously married).

Just not enough Catherine Darnells to go around.

Could the 1942 marriage have been bigamous, whether intentionally or not (the war, bad info about someone missing in action, etc.)? The Attwater husband died in 1999. The wife died in 1992, as Attwater.

If the marriage was legally determined to be bigamous, that would be noted by the GRO and it would not issue a certificate.

I think I'd apply for that marriage certificate, if you don't already know who that Jack Deciacco was.


I have actually checked the names of all deaths of given name Jack DOB 5 Dec 1907 against births, and all of the deaths are accounted for in births.

If someone died before 1970, the exact birthdate would not be shown on the death record.

You are in touch with the other people who have this family in their trees here at GR?

I wonder whether Domenic adopted an English given name, whether by informal adoption or choice. Can't figure out who this one is:

Name: Jack W Deciacco
Spouse Surname: Darnell
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration district: Pancras
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 56

Ancestry's transcription is messed up. The wife is Catherine Darnell, and her record shows the husband's surname as Deciaces. Are they known to you? One person here has a Catherine Darnell born 1906 in their tree. (Birth registered in Hartley Wintney, unless it's the Catherine Isabella registered in Tynemouth the same quarter.) I don't see a marriage of a Catherine to a Darnell that would make Darnell that Catherine's first married surname on the marriage to Deciacco.

That marriage seems a little late, but I don't see a birth for anyone who could be Jack. Also no Deciacco-Darnell births.

Ah. ?

Name: Catherine Decieco
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1925
Death Registration Month/Year: 1983
Registration district: Knowsley
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 36
Page: 0083

No other marriage of a Catherine to a Dec*, or birth of a Catherine Dec* c1925, to account for her.

She would have been very young in 1942. And I don't see a Catherine Darnell birth to match.

That death isn't the Catherine who married a Deciacco in 1979 in Yorkshire, who would have been born 1958-60 (and remarried).

Decieco does seem to be an independent surname rather than a misspelling/variant of Deciacco, though.

Thank you for the information re adoption. I have been able to trace Ellen's descendents, actually meeting them in a few weeks, because although she went to live with another family and took their surname, and even had the adoptive father on her marriage certificate, Ellen had made sure that her decendents knew what her real name had been. I am hoping that maybe one day someone in his line will know the truth and decide to investigate the name Deciacco. Unless of course he died childless. However I am curious about the Daniel in POW camp in Poland, but where do I go with the information? Would be grateful for any advice. Thank you.

Official adoptions did not begin until 1929 I think it is,but well after 1918 anyway I am afraid.
So if he was taken in by another family and given a new name you will not be able to find out anything I am afraid.
And even if he was adopted legally after 1929 you would get nowhere as adoption records are only available to the Adoptee and on their death are closed forever

I have drawn a blanc too. I have tried tapping in his name periodically. Istherenywhere I can go to find out about adoptions around 1914 -1918? My nan was sent to a convent boarding school when her parents died but she never knew what happened to her younger brother Dominic.

Christine.

You have not offended me.
I am the person that is least offendable on this site I think.

Its just that so many people come on here and think that we are either paid researchers(due to the advertising on TV) or related to the people that we answer requests of (Genes fault again for not making it clear).

Have you searched any trees for that person ?I am sorry to say that I have found no death,marriage or emigration for him I am afraid and it looks as though none of the others have either.


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I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone, I have never used this system before. I didn't know the people who responded were not related but just helping out, so sorry, and thank you for your help and advice.

Christine.
There is no point in sending me a request to view my tree as I am not related to you in any way.
I ,like most other people on this site who respond to requests for help do it to help people out and for a hobby.

You need to try searching trees on here or other sites to see if anyone else is researching your family by putting in details of who you are trying to find.


And Jan is quite correct,an acknowledgement and Please and Thank you help a lot when asking for help.

A good start in using this thread system is to acknowledge peoples' efforts and use the words "please" and "thank you".
Jan

Gaetano, his father, died in 1914.

52 Warner Street,
Holborn.


5th December 1907

Not sure how to use this 'thread'; system but here goes.

My Dominic Deciacco was born on 5th December 1907 at 52 Warner Street, Holborn. His birth was registered by his mother Jessie Deciacco on 20th January 1908. He was my grandmother's younger brother. Other siblings were: Rosina b. 1889, Giovanni 1891, Antonio 1894, Gaetano 1896, Ann Elizabeth 1898, Ellen 1901, Margaret 1904.

DI CIACA, Apaltano Head Married M 48 1863 Moisaic Worker Picinisco Caserter
DI CIACA, Jessie Wife Married 22 years
F 38 1873 London E C
DI CIACA, Johnny Son Single M 19 1892 No Employment London E C
DI CIACA, Antonio Son Single M 17 1894 Van Attendant London E C
DI CIACA, Apaltano Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy London E C
DI CIACA, Lizzie Daughter Single F 12 1899 London E C
DI CIACA, Ellen Daughter F 10 1901 London E C
DI CIACA, Margaret Daughter F 7 1904 London E C
DI CIACA, Domenicco Son M 3 1908 London E C

Registration District:
Holborn Sub District:
Clerkenwell Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
St James and St John Clerkenwell

Address:
26 Victoria Dwellings County:
London

Possible medal card on Ancestry for the father

Name: Gataion Deciacco
Regiment or Corps: 6th London Regiment, Machine Gun Corps
Regimental Number: 324327, 137739

Just checking for birthplace - is this him?

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Deciacco Dominic Holborn 1b 584

Got a problem with this record as there is a birth for a Daniel so this might be him rather than Dominic


UK Prisoners of War 1939 - 1945
Name: D. Deciacco
Rank: Fusilier
Army Number: 6481415
Regiment: The Royal Fusiliers
POW Number: 32269
Camp Type: Stalag
Camp Number: 344
Camp Location: Lambinowice, Poland
Record Office: Infantry and Army Physical Training Corps Record Office, Stanwell Road School, Ashford, Middlesex
Record Office Number: 23



Where was he born?

Dominic Deciacco born Dec 1907 was Margaretta Decaicco's (b. 1904) younger brother. Their parents were Jessie Miles and Gaetano Deciacco/Diciacca (spelt differently in all records). She never knew what happend to him, he must have changed his name or been adopted as there are no records with that name and birth date (I have his birth certificate). Margaretta married Frank Crampton in Nov 1926 and died in 2005 (aged 101) Does anyone know what happend to Dominic?