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Which Thomas Sykes?

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:43

also for info, this is Mary Pollard in 1841:

Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Rastrick

Job Pollard 44
Martha Pollard 43
John Pollard 17
Mary Pollard 15
Sam Pollard 10
Hannah Pollard 8
William Pollard 3
Betty Pollard 1

At least she had the manners to be with her family!

She is on page 14 of Rastrick district 3. Thomas Sykes is on page 10 of the same district.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:35

Oops, Michael, are both of us wrong on the birth?

Mine is too early, yours is in the wrong registration district!

I don't see one that actually matches.


1871 for info

Name: Emily Binns
Age: 21
>> Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Binns
>> Where born: Rastrick, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rastrick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Halifax

James Binns 22
Emily Binns 21
Charly Binns 1

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:33

Thanks very much for that everybody. I will get the marriage certificate.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:33

Francesca, the Mary whose maiden name you're asking is the one in 1841?

I don't know what her maiden name is!

If it's the marriage in 1845, then she's Mary Pollard.

You need Emily's birth certificate to be absolutely certain. You do know FreeBMD?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

And unfortunately ...

Births Jun 1846
Sykes Emily Anne Halifax 22 236
Births Sep 1846
Sykes Emily Halifax 22 190

Your Emily had no middle name when she married

Marriages Mar 1868
Binns James Halifax 9a 457
Sykes Emily Halifax 9a 457

so she is probably the second one.

The birth certificate will tell you both parents' names and the father's occupation.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Sep 2010 20:29

This certificate would tell you the mother's maiden name


Births Jun 1850
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Sykes Emily - Huddersfield 22 413

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:28

At pilot.familysearch there are several baptisms of children of James Sykes and Susannah or Hannah, 1792-1812.

Elizabeth, John, Abigail, Joah (possibly Job?), Crispin.

I wonder whether Thomas was a child of one of the daughters, not married, and James Fallowes was either his real father or his mother's husband, his stepfather, as Michael suggested.

I'd still get the actual marriage certificate to see what it says, rather than rely on a record of unknown source. It's possible that the father's name was James Fallowes Sykes, even.

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:27

What is this Marys maiden name Janey. Looks like the right Mary

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:22

Thats all i have. a relative has told me a mary,possibly thomas' wife was living with them in 1841. she must have meant Thomas.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:17

Francesca -- **when**??


Right, she's the one I was looking at:

1851

Name: Thomas Sykes
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Sykes
Where born: Rastrick, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rastrick
County/Island: Yorkshire

Thomas Sykes 30
Mary Sykes 29
Elizabeth Sykes 5
Harriet Sykes 2
Emily Sykes 10 MO

Name: Mary Sykes
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Sykes
Where born: Rastrick, Yorkshire, England

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:14

Yes Janey,she was born in castle hill, Rastrick halifax

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:13

Yes, Joseph and Martha Walker.

I'm really hoping you'll give us whatever information you have instead of me, for instance, hunting for what you seem to know already.

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:11

Would they be called joseph and martha walker?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:10

Francesca, a little more info. When and where was Emily born? Can you show us her in a census with Thomas?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:07

1841

Name: Thomas Sykes
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Occupation: Weaver.

He is in a household with two Walkers in their 60s; the two pages are full of Walkers.

On the facing page is a James Sykes, aged 76, "Poor Widower".

Francesca

Francesca Report 22 Sep 2010 20:04

Thomas had a daughter called Emily. She married James Binns,who is my grandmas Great Grandad.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 20:02

from
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

Groom's Name: Thomas Sykes
Groom's Birth Date: 1822
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Mary Pollard
Bride's Birth Date: 1825
Bride's Age: 20
Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1845
Marriage Place: Halifax, Elland, York, England
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Fallows
Bride's Father's Name: Job Pollard
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 19:58

This is a possible marriage of a Thomas Sykes to a Mary Hannah in Halifax:

Marriages Mar 1845
...
CLARK Mary Hannah Halifax 22 132
...
SYKES Thomas Halifax 22 132

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 22 Sep 2010 19:53

I don't know where at familysearch that info is, but it sounds like something submitted by someone possibly unreliable.

If you want to know what father that person named when he married, you need the marriage certificate:

Marriages Sep 1845
BARRACLOUGH Sarah Halifax 22 125
BENN Hannah Halifax 22 125
COLBECK William Halifax 22 125
Collins Sidney Halifax 22 125
HARGREAVES Edna Halifax 22 125
Jepson Benjamin Halifax 22 125
Pollard Mary Halifax 22 125
SYKES Thomas Halifax 22 125

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2010 19:51

1845 marriage for reference:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1845 (>99%)
Pollard Mary Halifax 22 125
SYKES Thomas Halifax 22 125

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Sep 2010 19:51

MARY COOPER
Female

Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES SYKES
Marriage: 17 FEB 1817 Halifax, Yorkshire, England




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THOS. SYKES
Christening: 03 MAR 1822 Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: JAMES SYKES
Mother: MARY